Re:

What am I missing here? What spawned this conversations?

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 10:53 PM, cfuture <cfuture@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I count myself tremendously and hugely blessed that I've never been
> asked to do something illegal or even in my view unethical. And not only
> that, I've never seen illegal doings that came up to the level of
> reporting.
>
> > There is a fiduciary responsibility associated with various
> professionals.If your company is doing stuff that you think is illegal, you
> first have an obligation to bring this to the attention of management. If
> management does not take action that you feel is appropriate, then your next
> responsibility is to figure out if there is a government agency you need to
> be a whistleblower to report the activity. If you do not report it, and the
> government later finds out, investigates, there is the presumption that you
> should have known about it, should have reported it.
> >
> Pretty much it, except when it's the government that is doing it.. Or
> often certain functionaries therein..
>
> > Actions to cause global warming are not yet considered to be illegal.
> There was a lady in Newfoundland (or Nova Scotia?) a few years back that
> got fined three thousand dollars for failing to put her recycling out
> properly... There was a guy in I think Louisiana who was fined big
> whopping money, thousands, for filling in "wetlands", because he
> recovered a water hole that he himself had dug. (These are true stories,
> not making them up)
>
> But changing the official records of historical temperature measurement
> to support the "global warming" story, by NASA, in official government
> documents, is not illegal.
>
> > However. this sort of thing can vary across international boundaries.
> ...
> Which is why you'll never hear the end of it, because it is a good
> excuse for more NWO socialism..
>
> > I am pretty sure that being a witness to a crime is not. in itself, a
> crime. Is there any law that makes it a criminal offense to not report a
> crime?
> I'm pretty sure there's not, but at some point of knowledge there must
> be something, because I always used to hear about "accessory to a crime"
> and "accessory to the crime after the fact" or something like that.
>
> If you lie to a state prosecutor, in many states if not all, they get
> you for some charge. They never even found any real evidence at all that
> got Martha Stewart ever did the deed for which they were purportedly
> after her for, but what they got her for, after days and days and who
> knows how many hours of questioning her, was that one detail was
> different between one telling and another about one phone conversation
> with a broker.
>
> I think it was Virginia (one of those states suffering from political
> pollution), where they were recently trying to pass a law that would
> require computer operators and technicians to report anything fishy,
> under penalty of criminal law.
>
> Doctors, nurses, and all the people who are professionally involved with
> children are required by law to report /any.suspicion.of.possibility/ of
> child abuse.
>
> Recently in Florida, (and most states) a social worker is susceptible to
> criminal charges if they fail to take a child away from parents and
> anything later happens to the child.
>
> (On the other hand, Those social workers are legally immune if they take
> the child away on the flimsiest of basis.)
>
> ................
>
> Banks are required to report all transactions over ten thousand dollars
> to government agencies, whether it is criminal or not, purportedly to
> uncover "money laundering".
>
> But they are also required to report _/any/_ suspicious activities by
> any customers, and not only that, federal law now requires them to /ask
> questions/ of their customers about what they do. Almost all the bank
> officers and tellers I deal with are just plain friendly and respond to
> decent treatment, but my main problem is that one now may wonder why
> someone is a little "too inquisitive".
>
> Sarbaney-Oxley is another case of requirements for corporations to
> maintain a store of records and documents that can serve as evidence
> against its own officials --and maybe employees-- in case the government
> should investigate.
>
> So that's an example of reporting /in case somebody might/ commit a crime.
>
> Yeah I'm sick of hearing about it to. (But I also tired of closing my
> ears)
>
> --Alan
>
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