RE: Hackers branded as terrorists was: (no subject)

Dave,

I forgot one line:  I think the filibuster of the Republican Congress was
just as much grounds for impeachment as former President Clinton's (for a
lack of any words that could suffice) "stupidity".

Also, where I said ..."interpret the Laws and the Constiution", I'm not sure
if I was going for "Constitution" or "constipation", but either way that was
a typo...;=)


James Jay Toran

(from ChannelWire:)
"Good humor is one of the best articles of dress one can wear in society."
-- William Makepeace Thackery


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-nontech-admin@midrange.com
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Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 1:33 PM
To: midrange-nontech@midrange.com
Subject: RE: Hackers branded as terrorists was: (no subject)


Dave,

Excellent points.

However, the courts absolutely DO move in directions, which is primarily
determined by who is appointed to be judges.  That's what it was
UNCONSCIABLE the way the prior Republican Congress dragged their feet on
Clinton appointments (I presume in order to wait until they could get a
Republican administration).  There wasn't a lot of news about this, so don't
know for sure how many appointments they never filled (if any).

The easiest way to see how courts move in a direction is to view the
contradictory Opinions from the Supreme Court over the last 200 years.
Since the Courts function to interpret the Laws and the Constiution, and
there sure is a lot of gray area to move around in, their interpretation
does, in fact, provide direction for the whole country.


I just took two paragraphs explaining why I disagree with the first sentence
of the second paragraph.  I could easily take reams explaining how I firmly
believe in every other word you wrote, however, I'm on a short break.

I'll just say thanks, and hope that suffices...:=)

James Jay Toran  (jjt)





-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-nontech-admin@midrange.com
[mailto:midrange-nontech-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of
David.X.Kahn@gsk.com
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 9:24 AM
To: midrange-nontech@midrange.com
Subject: RE: Hackers branded as terrorists was: (no subject)
Importance: High


JJT wrote:

> I definitely agree that there needs to be shades of gray in these
> verdicts. I'm NOT in favor of life sentences for kiddie-hackers.
> And I definitely agree with the ACLU that this needs to be thinked
> through, very deliberately.

Quite.

> But I also think the USG is moving in the right direction, and the courts
> are moving in the wrong direction.

The courts are not moving in any direction; they simply interpret the law.
The question is not which direction you are moving in, but the need to
proceed with extreme caution. Hasty legislation is nearly always bad
legislation - akin in our world to putting major systems in without
testing. Legislation forced through against the usual checks and balances
is a violation of democratic principles. Retrospective legislation is
morally questionable at best. With the tone of some of these posts I'm
concerned that a McCarthy atmosphere might be emerging following the
terrible events of September 11. The destruction of democracy and freedom
is what the terrorists seek. Don't help them.

Dave...
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