RE: ]Where does Bin Laden's money come from?

Patrice, Chuck

I guess the question is:  do the local authorities have the will to enforce
the law, and if not, does the international community?

Chuck, I think that some will, and some won't.  We might be surprised who
does and doesn't.  Will Israel?  Will Palenstine?  Will America?  America
still has it's own terrorists within it's borders (as well as those from
outside).  Will America continue to harbor them, as it has...?

Patrice, thank you for your "inciteful" comments.  I too, have no such
expectations but I have hope.  The events of horror confirm the wisdom of
not having any expectations about anything; but they do not deter my hopes,
or the terrorists have won the battle.  Hopefully the war (which remains to
be seen) will be another matter...

jt

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Subject: Re: ]Where does Bin Laden's money come from?


Patrice,

I have DEFINITELY been thinking the same thing. I mentioned this to someone
several days ago -
hack into the bank accounts and DRAIN THEM... Seems like there was "talk" of
doing this last year
or so, but of course there are those that don't agree with doing stuff like
this. So I imagine
that it very well could be going on under the covers, but either way we will
probably never know,
or not know for a LONG time...

PLEASE don't take this harshly, because I do not mean it that way, but
expecting local authorities
to do anything in many of these cases is a pipe dream - ain't gonna happen.
Many of the folks
doing this stuff hang out in countries where they are paying off officials
or officials are
harbouring and condoning them...

Peace,

Chuck

"Horan, Patrice" wrote:

> I read in the daybook at
> http://www.jerrypournelle.com/view/currentview.html#terror
>
> <<
> Tom Brosz has a suggestion: bin Laden must have assets in banks. The US
> should issue letters of marque and reprisal to hackers. Internet pirates
> with a national commission...
>
> Surely his financial holdings have left a trail.
> <<
>
> Ever see the Robert Redford movie "Sneakers"? What I'm remembering from it
> now is how they cleaned out the GOP's bank account  and deposited the
funds
> as they saw fit.  Oh, for someone to find and empty Bin Laden's accounts,
> maybe wire the funds to the September 11th fund. . .
>
> Seriously, I do hope that tracking & seizing assets is part of the US's
> intelligence work to defend against terrorism.
>
> Not until reading the "What Does Osama Bin Laden Want?" article (I think
> that is the title & I forget where it was posted), did I realize that
> he/fellow terrorists supplemented his independent wealth via extortion.
>
> >>
> Some pundits have suggested that killing Bin Laden would be
> effective because it would stanch the flow of cash to
> terrorists. This may not be so. Bin Laden's groups do get
> funds from his personal fortune, but they also finance
> operations by dunning wealthy Gulf Arabs and by siphoning off
> donations to Muslim charities.
> >>
>
> Seems Bin Laden & followers finance themselves similar to the mafia in
> America. When head mafia figures do serve time, isn't it typically for
> extortion, racketeering, money laundering, and/or tax evasion rather than
> the umpteen counts of murder for which they cannot be proven guilty?
>
> Do the laws of the countries where this "dunning" & "siphoning" occurs
> recognize the practice as illegal? If so, does local law enforcement have
> the means to apprehend, prosecute, convict, & punish on this count? If
they
> don't, I think this is the opportunity for the international community to
> ensure that necessary legislation is passed & enforced.
>
> Regardless of what action is taken against those responsible for 9/11,
there
> WILL be others (I don't ever expect a complete global conversion of hearts
&
> minds). I think local prosecution of illegal activity which facilitates
> terrorist acts could make it harder for future terrorists to accomplish
what
> they did Tuesday.
>
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