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Rob,

This is my first V7R2 Upgrade. I thought when you added it to the list, that it would be perm, but I see that is only for that session.
I have enough info at this point, it just won't be as clean as my V6R1 to V7R1 DSLO combined PTF image.
That one was text book with no issues.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Berendt
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:12 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: V7R2 OS Upgrade - Work with licensed programs for target release questions

Paul,

Do you already have one lpar at 7.2? This is what Jim is talking about.
He has one lpar fully up to IBM i 7.2 with all the latest PTF's updated (on a weekly basis). Then, when he has to do a customer install, or upgrade, he saves this and uses that as his install media.
You know how IBM issues "resaves" as in this website:
http://www-947.ibm.com/systems/support/i/planning/resave/index.html
Basically Jim is just creating his own resave.

If, however, you currently have no lpar at 7.2 and you are trying to upgrade your first lpar to 7.2 this doesn't apply to you. Unless, you are going to have Jim or someone else come down with their resave and do this for you.

If you are trying to upgrade your first lpar to 7.2 then you can easily add 5733OPS options on the "Work with licensed programs for target release" screen by simply typing in the LPP and the option at the blank line at the top.


Rob Berendt
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From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
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Date: 10/11/2016 07:55 AM
Subject: RE: V7R2 OS Upgrade - Work with licensed programs for
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Jim,

The PTFs will be there, but will they be installed?

How about Java 8, 5770JV1, options 16 and 17?

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim
Oberholtzer
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 11:57 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: V7R2 OS Upgrade - Work with licensed programs for target
release questions

Paul,

5733OPS should not stop you from using the DLSO. Build your base install
with option 40.
Build a save file for 5733OPS *BASE through option 15 all in a single
library
Save each option (I always use a control language program that just
saves
each option one after another)
Save the library to a save file

Build/upgrade your partition
FTP the save file with the OPS save files in it.
Restore the library
Run the CL you just built to restore the 5733OPS License program products
Done.

All the PTFs will come across when you save the LICPGMs

That library I mentioned is how I install 5733OPS to my customer's
machines to avoid having to apply PTFs since I keep my base "Gold"
partition fully PTFd on a weekly basis.

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steinmetz, Paul
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 7:48 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: V7R2 OS Upgrade - Work with licensed programs for target
release questions

Jim, Rob, and the gang.

I tried this many times, different LPARS, no success.
Opened up a PMR with IBM.

Looks like no can do.
My goal of a DLSO option with all LPP and PTFs will not happen.
This V7R2 OS upgrade will take multiple IPLs and multiple PTF applies.

See IBM's response below.
Anyone have any tricks or shortcuts.

. These products are not parts of the standard set and are not implemented
in "the list". As such they are not implemented in the tools that create
or manage the list. This function is not PTF'd so it would require a
re-save of the OS to add the functions. Currently there are no plans for a
resave.
Therefore they are not enabled for the install process. So for the time
being, the only option is to install them post upgrade.

In addition, there is no plan to implement 5733OPS as a base product
offering. Refer to Tech Doc.
http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=nas8N1021450 for IBM's
statement on this product offering.

For purposes of creating your DLSO image these products must be install
after the standard products are installed.

Paul

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From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim
Oberholtzer
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 9:41 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: V7R2 OS Upgrade - Work with licensed programs for target
release questions

When you build a system using the DLSO option (Larry and I tend to do this
all the time) the profile will assist in setting up what is put onto the
distribution media. I don't tend to mess with it too much because
normally I'm doing OS upgrades with them. New installs are really rare,
as opposed to unload/reload.

The advantage to doing an OS upgrade this way is when I deliver the OS
media to you for the upgrade, 100% of the PTFs you will need are already
applied therefore cutting down the length of the down time needed to do
the upgrade.
On a P8 (8way with 4 cores turned on) I did a V7R1 to V7R3 upgrade in just
shy of 75 minutes last week. With the shutdown and start up the upgrade
took under 2 hours. Customer happy!

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects


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From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
CRPence
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 3:25 PM
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Subject: Re: V7R2 OS Upgrade - Work with licensed programs for target
release questions

On 07-Oct-2016 15:11 -0500, Steinmetz, Paul wrote:
[.] I thought this would be part of option 5 - Prepare for install,
which has to be done before the install and to verify the image
catalog. [.]

I have not closely followed this discussion... but does Option-41 for
establishing an Installation Profile assist in any way?

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