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Do you need all the receivers in the one library i.e. do they all need to
be part of the same chain or could you archive them off into other
libraries to spread them around for save purposes ?

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 7:00 AM, Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks.

Our "big" library is journal receivers. We do INSANE retention of journal
receivers.
When you think of a restore strategy you should have your receiver library
restored before your data library. So you shouldn't do
*ALLUSR (except #BIGLIB)
#BIGLIB

You could do
#BIGLIB
*ALLUSR (except #BIGLIB)
But do you want it there before QUSRSYS and QGPL?

But one or the other is the only work around if you want to scatter save
#BIGLIB.

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From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 09/20/2016 02:33 PM
Subject: RE: BRMS scatter saves
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



Rob,

I remember discussing this in a previous thread.

I have a similar situation with one of my libraries, 5 times larger than
any other library.

The problem I have with IBM's solution is that you have to hardcode
libraries and objects within BRMS using multiple control groups.
I prefer not to do this, because every time a new library is created or a
library is deleted, you must revisit your BRMS control groups config.
I'm a strong advocate of *alluser, no changes needed to BRMS when new
library is created or a library is deleted, and you know you are backing
up 100%.
Prior to using *alluser, we were burned in the past when someone created a
new library, and it wasn't added to the save.

Gave you a vote.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob
Berendt
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 1:34 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: BRMS scatter saves

Sounds familiar, like I've discussed this before.

Anyway, I opened up an RFE and if this pertains to you then I'd appeciate
your vote.
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?
use_case=viewRfe&CR_ID=94797



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From: Paul Roy <paul.roy@xxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 09/20/2016 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: BRMS scatter saves
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



It could have changed ... but to my understanding parallel save cannot be
setup for *ALLUSER

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=nas8N1012281

Paul



From: Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx>
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: 20/09/2016 16:22
Subject: BRMS scatter saves
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



We spread our saves among four drives in our library.
Objects within a library are currently not scattered among the drives. Is



there a way to get it to do so?

The problem is we have one extremely large library (looking at breaking
that down but that will be difficult at best).
It's still saving for three hours after the other libraries in the *ALLUSR



part are done.
I'm sure that if it would scatter we bust that time by potentially 1/4.

*LINK save scatters.

While I am more concerned about the time if I was still using physical
tape I would also be concerned about this
Volume ---Temporary Errors--- --------M Bytes--------
ID Read Write Read Written
G00129 0 0 1 1572815
G00130 0 0 1 549684
G00131 0 0 1 873180
G00132 0 0 1 552368
G00133 0 0 1 665417
The big library starts out on G00129. Fills that up and,
instead of using the empty space on 130-132,
it loads up another tape (G00133) and continues the save on from there.
Got this data from PRTERRLOG. I ran it with VOLSTAT(*DLT) right before
the save to clear the old data. These numbers are pretty close to what
our VTL tells us was 'written'.


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