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Paul,

Yes that works too, but now you need a PC somewhere. You can accomplish the
same thing with just the HMC.

With LAN Console, they the technique you suggest is the best way.

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steinmetz, Paul
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:14 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: SAVE 21 remote hmc and pc energy saver

Better yet, whenever we remote in for maint, we remote desktop to a PC
within the data center or local network, then open any needed sessions from
that PC.
If you remote session fails, local PC which is doing all the work continues
to process without issue.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim
Oberholtzer
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:54 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: SAVE 21 remote hmc and pc energy saver

Yes.

So set up a console session on the HMC. Leave it on the sign on screen.

Later connect to port 2300 of the HMC with a 5250 emulator, and sign on.
You will see the job in both places. Sign on a second, third, fourth, ....
time. You will see the same job on all the sessions. As the screen is
updated by the host, all of the sessions will be updated at the same time.

So the process is leave each of your partitions set with a signon screen at
the physical HMC. Only use the remote 5250 session to do your work and
you'll not have the described problem again. Other processes are not as
forgiving as a full system save.

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim
Franz
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 11:49 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: SAVE 21 remote hmc and pc energy saver

Jim,

So if set up your steps, when he went to the physical hmc, if he signed on
it would pick up the running SAVE21, (or the SAVE 21 would have been running
on the HMC)?

Jim Franz

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Jim Oberholtzer <
midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yep, IBM thought of that problem.

That's why I insist that all my customers start a console session on
the physical HMC for each partition and just leave it without signing
on. That way when you use a remote connection the local HMC
connection is also started and remains in place in the event of a
remote communications failure to the HMC.

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jim Franz
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 9:35 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: SAVE 21 remote hmc and pc energy saver

Our admin ran a save21 from his laptap remoted into hmc.
All was running well till laptop energy saver blacked out the display.
Was an hour into it.
He went to HMC and had blank screen for console.

Used web access of tape library to monitor activity.
Save 21 kept running, and tape drive was set to autoload. Not using BRMS.
V7r1
It kept running (3 more hours, including load of 2nd tape) and
completed the save 21 In previous releases I've seen this fail. The
CPF5080 has "ignore"
thoughout log.



CPF5140 Diagnostic 70 09/28/14 18:17:56.041199
QWSERROR QSYS 0630 QWSUIEH
Message . . . . : Session stopped
by
a request from device DSP01.


CPF5503 Diagnostic 30 09/28/14 18:17:56.041241
QWSERROR QSYS 0652 QWSUIEH
Message . . . . : Input or Output
request failed. See message CPF5140.


CPF5080 Notify 30 09/28/14 18:18:06.437840
QWSDSMSG QSYS 0546 QMHSNSTA Q
Message . . . . : Display status
message request failed. See message


CPF5263.
Cause . . . . . : Various error
conditions detected. Recovery . . . :
Close the active file, if any,
and see the message CPF5263 for corrective
action. Correct the errors and
then try the request again. Possible choices
for replying to message . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . : I -- Ignore the

request.
*NONE Reply 09/28/14 18:18:06.437844
QMHSNINQ QSYS 0F84 QMHSNSTA Q
Message . . . . : I



Jim Franz
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