RE: Back ups with High Availability Web Server

We use SWA, it works great, for libraries.
However, SWA for the IFS is a different animal.
There is no wait time for IFS objects.
If an IFS object is locked, it is immediately skipped.
I asked for DRC, it won't happen.
I'm currently having issues saving IFS objects.
Some of my issues were not discovered until I did a test restore, and found I was missing some IFS objects, the ones that were locked and not saved.
HA was discussed, but not seriously, because of $$$

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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roberto José Etcheverry Romero
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 4:12 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Back ups with High Availability Web Server

Isn't there a Save While Active option? i think Rob has lot's of experience on that front, i've just skimmed over most posts concerning it, but i've been led to believe that SWA is awesome and allows for just what you are asking for...
You dont need a full 18hour window to do a full system save, just save the things you need all subsystems down first (savsys and the like should be
fast) and then bring it back up and get the rest of the stuff with SWA Best Regards,



On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Matt Olson <Matt.Olson@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

IBM really needs to fix this issue. Put in a Design Change Request to
allow for online backups like you can do with Windows. We do full
(bare
metal) backups of our windows machines all the time, no downtime required.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bradley Stone [mailto:bvstone@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 3:03 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Back ups with High Availability Web Server

Here's a question I have a customer interested in.

They have a web application that they make available to people during
normal business hours (gov't entity). It's basically looking up old
land records, court cases, etc. Scanned and redacted documents.

They now what to make this available to anyone. You would pay for 24
hour access (w/ CC), then so much per page of each document you want
to save to PDF.

The issue they are having is because the number of documents is so
large, the weekly system save they do takes about 18 hours. They do
daily backups that saves only things that have changed, and takes about 2 hours.

They are trying to figure out the best way to do these weekly system
saves and still give the customer a good experience. For example, if
they sign up at saturday at 1am for 24 hours and then backups start
for 18 hours, there's trouble. So they're trying to find the best
balance between availability with the safety of the full system backup.

I said since they are doing the saves every night, maybe they could
push their system save to once a month. Then set up a schedule so
that if a user purchased 24 hours close to a backup time, they are
warned and their time extends past the backup.

Any ideas? I'm sure others have dealt with this before. Thanks!

Brad
www.bvstools.com
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