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On 14 Jun 2013 05:34, rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
<<SNIP>> It also looks like crap at archives.midrange.com. However
several people just do not care. <<SNIP>>
They don't understand that email readers line up threads by hidden
document fields and not just the subject line combined with
date/time.

<rant>

The /pot and kettle/ idiom come to mind.

That commentary in the above quoted text is provided by someone who both top posts and leaves the EOM marker at the bottom of their messages, thus losing all context for their reply in the archives. As such, a reviewer of the archives can only *assume* to what had been replied, will be the immediately previous message in the archives. Often little sense can be made of their reply, for lack of knowing specifically to what text their reply was directed; esp. if the replied-to message was very long, the commentary was complex or multifaceted, or multiple questions had been asked.

While the following is hardly an example of one of the worst, there is per typical, no attribution in the following message [and in this case, the reply seems likely to have been the immediately prior message link as presented in the /thread/ index; but that is not always the case, both because a reply might span the monthly index and the threading algorithm might get /confused/ for whatever reasons it does so, often enough that the prior message can not be safely inferred to always be the replied-to message]:
http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l/201306/msg00578.html

At best the reviewer of the archives has to click on the link to the prior message; hoping that is the message that was replied-to. Had the question been included in the reply as quoted text, then the reviewer may get the gist without having to read\click-on any other messages. And at worst the reviewer has to click on many different links in the thread, then try to guess what specific question was being answered. If some attributions [such as the sender along with date\time] of the message to which the reply was made had been included *above* the EOM marker, then even without any quoted text also having been included, at least then a reviewer of the archives could know when they have found [finally clicked on] the specific message that had been replied-to.

Such an unattributed reply IMO also "looks like crap at archives.midrange.com" because there is nothing [neither any quoted text, nor attribution of date\time\sender] to clarify to the reader, to what specific text [comment or question] or to what specific message the reply was directed.

</rant>


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