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This sounds good but it would be nice if IBM i worked with other SANS as
well.

With your 'inside knowledge' any idea if this will be limited to the V7000
& V3700?


On 22 May 2013 01:29, Pete Massiello - ML <pmassiello-ml@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

Jim is right on here about complex environments.

What is going to make this easier is additional options that IBM has
stated are coming. If you go back to the February announcements there was
a statement of direction about adding direct IBM I support for the IBM
Storwize SAN products (V7000 & V3700). These are great easy to use SANs,
with some fantastic capability. I know when they are coming out, but I
don't think that IBM has publically stated it yet. I would say watch this
space closely, because when it is announced then IBM I will be able to
directly attach with fibre to these great little SAN devices, and the need
for VIOS will be reduced for the IBM I community. Making easy to connect,
easy to use, and easy to manage external disk, at a very affordable price.
When you see IBM i and a V7000 work together, you will be reminded why
those guys in the boardroom were so happy they had chosen IBM i.

Pete
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Pete Massiello
iTech Solutions
http://www.itechsol.com
http://www.iInTheCloud.com





-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Oberholtzer
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:04 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Housekeeping

Your right; for the more complex environments to be vertically integrated
it is getting somewhat more complex to set up, but simpler to manage once
it is set up (exception VIOS).

If you want IBM i with its total integration and use that box to run your
business, it's still simple. It all depends on how much unstructured data
you have to manage.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 5/21/2013 7:33 AM, Jeff Crosby wrote:
Forgive me for butting in here, because I have absolutely no
experience with VIOS or blades or PureFlex or whatever, but a thought
keeps creeping into my head.

We're going backwards.

The IBM i is supposed to be simple to manage. This doesn't sound like
it's making things simpler. Are we going to get to a point where the
"Laughing Boardroom" ads don't apply anymore?

Just my .02.




On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Vernon Hamberg<vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
wrote:

I won't say that the FSM of PureFlex does everything, but I
believe it IS a graphical interface to managing those boxes -
wouldn't it be nice to get that for other places?

Has anyone used it? Is it much more GUI than, say, HMC?

On 5/21/2013 6:08 AM,rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> VIOS is probably linux based. And many of those Linux
propeller heads > aren't as open to GUI as IBM i users are. At
least that's what IBM told > me when I asked for an enhancement
to System i Navigator for Windows > support for semaphores and
threads. They rejected the request because > true aficionados of
semaphores and threads eschew GUI.
>
>
> Rob Berendt

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