RE: Cumulative PTF w/o Technology Refresh -- MIDRANGE-L

Pete,

Re clarifying, you build a DSLO image after PTFs are applied.
This new image is a combined LIC, i5OS, PTF image, used for either a new install or i5os upgrade.
When i5 OS is installed, all PTF will be already included, eliminate IPLs, PTF load and apply times.

Thanks
Paul

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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pete Massiello - ML
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 3:01 PM
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Subject: RE: Cumulative PTF w/o Technology Refresh

Paul,

You mean create your own install images using GO LICPGM, which creates a install image with the PTFs PRE-Installed.

Just putting the two images into the same Image catalogue isn't going to make anything quicker.

Pete

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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steinmetz, Paul
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 2:53 PM
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Subject: RE: Cumulative PTF w/o Technology Refresh

Kurt,

Yes, they can be applied via an Image Catalog.
Also, if you could create a test LPAR, you could combine the OS upgrade and PTF all in one image catalog, thus reducing the down window and number of IPLs required.
I'm currently in the process of testing this.

Paul

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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anderson, Kurt
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 2:46 PM
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Subject: RE: Cumulative PTF w/o Technology Refresh

I'm being asked to relay a couple questions.
Can the PTFs listed below by Jim all be applied via an Image Catalog?
Can they be queued up (so to speak)?

-Kurt
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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Oberholtzer
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:04 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Cumulative PTF w/o Technology Refresh

Kurt,

I agree with your partners request, I would make the same one. That said, if you have seen no improvement, I suspect a different problem than PTFs. Is this an LPAR box? Was the LPAR profile changed to use the extra processor? Is there a high limit on the processor that is less than (I think two based on your description) the number of processors you had before adding one?

Yes, you can apply the cumulative and then go back and apply the group for the TR later; But I highly suggest that in addition to the Cumulative you apply the following list of groups as well:
PTF Group Text
SF99710 CUMULATIVE PTF PACKAGE C3037710
SF99709 GROUP HIPER
SF99708 GROUP SECURITY
SF99705 HARDWARE AND RELATED PTFS
SF99701 DB2 FOR IBM I
SF99627 7.1 ELECTRONIC SERVICES GROUP PTF
SF99572 JAVA
SF99368 IBM HTTP SERVER FOR I
SF99367 TCP/IP PTF
SF99366 PRINT PTFS
SF99362 BACKUP RECOVERY SOLUTIONS (even if you don't use
BRMS this is where all the save/restore PTFs are)
SF99145 PERFORMANCE TOOLS (if you have them)

The TR is SF99707 TECHNOLOGY REFRESH

The HIPER, and Hardware ones are the ones I would find most important in this case, however if your taking the time to apply any Group you might
just as well get the entire batch. I'm not sure why you would not
want the TR group as well, unless there is something in the cover letter that leads you to believe there is going to be a problem.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects

On 5/15/2013 9:49 AM, Anderson, Kurt wrote:

So we've been really bad about PTFs. Our IBM BP is asking that we apply PTFs because after getting an additional core activated (from 1 to 2) we've noticed 0 improvement on the system.
So we finally ordered a cumulative PTF and we're looking at applying it. But then I thought, "What about technology refreshes?" It doesn't appear that the cume comes with a TR on it. Cume: C3037710
http://www-912.ibm.com/systems/electronic/support/s_dir/sline003.nsf/P
SP%20Number%20View/SF98035

Are we safe to apply the Cume w/o a TR and then later investigate applying a Technology Refresh?

Thanks,
Kurt Anderson
Sr. Programmer/Analyst
CustomCall Data Systems, a division of Enghouse Systems Ltd
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