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If there is "a PTF being worked on" then there [in effect] *must be* an APAR already; i.e. a PTF can not exist without an APAR having been created, to which the PTF is associated. While there may be no APAR number generated yet, e.g. if the issue was being worked under an internal tracking number [which used to be called a PTR or an issue] and no PTF has been generated, then the person who owns the work item can [and probably should] generate an APAR number so the issue can be tracked external to IBM. If the APAR number exists but simply has not had that APAR opened externally because the issue originated from internal tracking [and so even with existence of a PTF number the APAR is not automatically generated externally], then the issue owner can send a request to the APAR coordinator asking that the APAR be opened externally. There is no reason for them not to create the APAR, except the few minutes it takes to make that happen. However unless someone who has a PMR open with IBM *asks* them to open the APAR externally to enable tracking, the APAR will likely not appear externally until the PTF becomes generally available; which is when the automated opening of the APAR externally will transpire if not initiated by the developer(s) who own the issue and are developing the PTF(s).

Regards, Chuck

On 20 Mar 2013 15:40, Thomas Garvey wrote:
I don't think this has risen to the level of an APAR yet. It took
the IBM guy a week to find out if there was a PTF being worked on,
cause he couldn't find any reports either.

RBD on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 4:33 PM wrote:

Excellent. There is definitely a problem with debugging UDFs after
v5r4.

Let us know when you get the PTF and let us know how it works. We
have the same problem on our end.

On Mar 20, 2013, at 4:25 PM, "Thomas Garvey" wrote:

For all those interested in this subject... There are proven
differences between v5r4 and v7r1 in this regard. I am able to
debug my UDF on v5r4, but NOT v7r1. IBM has been contacted and
they are providing a PTF (that is not yet available for release)
for me to test on my specific v7r1 system. Haven't tried it yet
but will let you know the results.

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