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Gary,

You have an observation. Regardless of the past, IBM have now given us the
IBM i branding. This is cool - it runs all the old crap we built, all the
old stuff that still works for our business, and it even lets us do new
and amazing things. Given that it can do all these things, complaining is
probably the reason why IBM is not listening to us. Our community tends to
post more negative comments and complaints about our beloved platform than
any other community.

Now, what was the point of your observation?




On 12/12/12 12:09 PM, "Monnier, Gary" <Gary.Monnier@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

And if IBM hadn't played internal politics and had listened to the user
community i OS would not belong to Apple. Great marketing step that.

But as you say, if we want to stay with IBM we have to go along with IBM
wanting to brand themselves as a hardware company.

Then again considering how well they listened to us, and Oracle
controlling Java (another great step on IBM's part), maybe moving off IBM
wouldn't be such a bad thing. Sacrilege I know but maybe the hard truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trevor Perry
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:36 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Software Vendors (And US too) - A small rant

The rebranding is no longer in the equation. IBM have given us the IBM i
branding to match their Power brand, and it will be with us for the long
term.

Either we, as a community, promote the current and future branding, or we
will be left behind in the DP department. And, with all the noise from
the MS crowd (and even Unix people), and some of our own community, we
need to support this incredible platform for the long term, not its
glorious past.
The challenge is to stop using arguments that keep us mired in the old
names and stuck in old ways of doing things.



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