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<vendor>
I know Scott already suggested you look at Profound UI. But I wanted to add in, we DO support setting up any key to be a field exit key in Profound UI. Creating your 10 key entry system should be trivial. In fact you should be able to convert your existing entry screen as the basis and then make enhancements.
</vendor>

Brian May
IBM i Modernization Specialist
Profound Logic Software
http://www.profoundlogic.com
937-439-7925 Phone
877-224-7768 Toll Free


              


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Nelson
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 5:31 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: New COMMON Conference

Scott,

Have you successfully enabled the field exit key in a GUI screen format?
Until we have that capability out of the box with no programming, I'll still espouse the green screen.

In fairness, the only GUI software I've seen that has a "real keyboard" is from Look Software, but that was a telnet connection under the covers. The cool part was the ability to toggle between green and GUI.

I don't know if Look Software carried the keyboard mapping over to their web interface.

Many of my clients are using software from Computer Guidance Corp. in Phoenix. They had the Look Software product at one time, but for some reason they were "forced" by IBM to go the web interface route.

The result is software that looks pretty, but if you're sitting in a job trailer 200 miles from the office, a Client Access telnet session beats the heck out of a web interface.

I have written a green screen program to enable those users to do higher speed data entry into the same files as the fancy payroll entry program.

Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Klement
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 4:59 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: New COMMON Conference

Don,

You're absolutely right. The problem, in many cases, has nothing to do with how functional 5250 screens are. It has to do entirely with how the users perceive them.

That's not true 100%, of course. There are places where pictures, graphs, etc, are useful in business, and having a GUI screen makes those work much better.

However, there are many circumstances ("key 150 time cards") where it doesn't matter whether it's green screen or GUI from a functional perspective. But, to the user's perception, it makes all the difference in the world. And I haven't found any way to combat that perception, aside from providing GUI, modern, display interfaces.


On 8/16/2012 4:49 PM, Don wrote:

No Paul, you supposed to go GUI...it's politically correct, it looks
nice for the simple minds in marketing, it's what everybody wants,
it's what M$ has overmarketed the world to believe is what's supposed
to be the standard....oh and btw, you'll probably have to hire an
additional person
or
two because it may be slower than your green screen if you're going to
make
that large payroll in time... :)

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