Re: RE - Java 7

LOL - we are probably saying the same thing, basically. In both CAAC and ISV Advisory we've heard about these things, and there is always a bit of confusion over just what it means. Maybe in practical terms it ends up being all the same.

IBM does distinguish between the TR PTF group and other fixes/changes made at the same time. As to what is in the TR PTF group, here is a description from a wiki on developerworks -

"Future deliveries of new hardware-related and firmware-related function for IBM i 7.1 are planned as updates to the Technology Refresh PTF Group."

There's nothing here about DB2, for example, but they do try to deliver DB2 & other PTFs at the same time.

Elsewhere they say that a TR is LIC only - I think this still gets very confusing, so maybe it's just easiest to lump it all together.

All in all, it makes a less disruptive upgrade to our systems - that's a good thing.

Vern

On 5/25/2012 8:57 PM, DrFranken wrote:

I would respectfully disagree that the TRs are Hardware Only. For
example I did a session at COMMON on the networking enhancements in TR3.
These enhancements work on any hardware supported by IBM i 7.1 and on
networking adapters that are so old they lay on the shelves of the
Frankenlab, so they are certainly not hardware only updates.

Clearly supporting new hardware is one of the things that TRs bring to
the system but they are not the only thing!!

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

On 5/25/2012 9:42 PM, Vern Hamberg wrote:

Strictly speaking, TRs are hardware-only - things that are added to the
OS to let it work with new hardware.

But IBM is putting out software changes on the same schedule - so even
IBMers tend to speak of the whole thing as a TR. The schedule tends to
be twice a year, and they can focus on certain functional areas maybe
every other TR-time, maybe with more general items in between. Something
like that, anyhow.

This way of doing fixes does have some advantages - we no longer have to
wait for major releases to get new and interesting functionality. So we
get new database stuff without having to wait for the 7.2 release -
whatever the next one is.

At least that's what they've told us in some meetings!!

Vern

On 5/25/2012 10:04 AM, rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

I submitted feedback (via that button) in that section of Infocenter that
if they're abandoning point releases and just using TR's then they should
document all this in there since these will not arrive on the physical
media.


Rob Berendt