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It most probably origially checked for the word "STOP" but the users complained that STOP was too hard to type and management insisted on the change. :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry C. Adams
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 2:35 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Mandatory Job Log

That reminds me of a process I found at my previous employer. It asked if you wanted to run the process; if not type STOP. Then it checked for the word "NO" to terminate. People like that should be kicked out of the gene pool.

Jerry C. Adams
IBM i Programmer/Analyst
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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of paul therrien
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 1:19 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Mandatory Job Log

For really important stuff you make the user actually key in the word 'YES'
or 'DELETE' --- don't take ENTER for an answer! :-)

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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry C. Adams
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 8:31 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Mandatory Job Log

True, but the latest incident had nothing to do with vacations, but it suddenly became "critical" over a week later. Really can't blame the user - this time. We only have two clerks here, and both said, "We didn't close such-and-such for December but the system (application) says it is closed."
I verified that the application was, indeed, closed; i.e., posted to the G/L.

Turned out (after a bit of brow-beating) that the Treasurer/Owner had "accidentally" run the close before December was even over! Even though there's a "Do You really want to do this?" panel, he gets distracted and just turns around and presses the Enter key. I have long been of the opinion that a confirmation should require a more positive response than just pressing the Enter key, such as pressing a command/function key. I'll probably get around to implementing that for this application since it caused so much turmoil last week.

Jerry C. Adams
IBM i Programmer/Analyst
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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rob@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 8:06 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Mandatory Job Log

Oh well, that should help cover that occasional week off. :-)


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From: "Jerry C. Adams" <midrange@xxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 01/09/2012 08:57 AM
Subject: RE: Mandatory Job Log
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Roger,

Thanks for reminding me of the Cleanup routine. Job logs were set for removal after 7 days, but (I can't believe this) it's sometimes > a week before they report a problem. So I changed it to 14 days.

Jerry C. Adams
IBM i Programmer/Analyst
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2) by F.M. Hunter and L.S. Davis (i.e., they prostituted themselves for
rocks)
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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Harman, Roger
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 2:53 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Mandatory Job Log

They don't have to physically "print". And, system cleanup options (or a
scheduled job) can purge them for you.


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry C. Adams
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 11:54 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Mandatory Job Log

Roger,

Yes, I considered that - but I don't want my job logs printing or have to
remember to prompt to change the default.

Jerry C. Adams
IBM i Programmer/Analyst
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letter alphabet called Mxedruli. -EUI
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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Harman, Roger
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 1:14 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Mandatory Job Log

Have you considered: ChgCmdDft Cmd(Signoff) NewDft('LOG(*LIST)') ??


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry C. Adams
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 10:40 AM
To: Midrange-L
Subject: Mandatory Job Log

I am having problems with a couple of users telling me, "I didn't do that"
(whatever THAT is). I wanted to force a joblog. If they signoff using a
menu option, I have SIGNOFF *LIST, but if they just type SIGNOFF the
default
is *NOLIST.



I thought that changing the job description to:



Change Job Description (CHGJOBD)



Type choices, press Enter.



Message logging: LOG

Level . . . . . . . . . . . . 4

Severity . . . . . . . . . . . 00

Text . . . . . . . . . . . . . *SECLVL

Log CL program commands . . . . LOGCLPGM *YES



and putting that into their user profile would always get a job log no
matter how they signed off. I know (because I tested it - again) that on
a
SBMJOB with this job description I get a job log.



What am I missing regarding the interactive sessions?



Jerry C. Adams

IBM i Programmer/Analyst

And those who were seen dancing were thought insane by those who could not
hear the music. - Nietzsche

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