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RE: DST PTF(s) for V5R1?

Correct, there is no system value QTIMZON in OS/400 V5R1, (GA May 25, 2001 / EOS Sep. 30, 2005)

IIRC QTIMZON was added in V5R3, (GA June 11, 2004 / EOS April 30, 2009) and facilitated the automatic time changes for DST. If you have the QTIMZON system value, QUTCOFFSET cannot be manually changed.

Central Standard time is UTC -6:00, Central Daylight Time (second Sunday in March until the first Sunday in November) is UTC -5:00

If you use a job schedule entry to change your system clock you should change QUTCOFFSET at the same time.


Regards,
 
Scott Ingvaldson
Senior IBM Support Specialist



-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry C. Adams [mailto:midrange@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 10:18 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: DST PTF(s) for V5R1?

No such system value as QTIMZON in V5R1. There is a QUTCOFFSET which is set to -05:00 for us (Central Time). Is this correct? I ask because the National Institute of Standards shows that it should be -06:00 (http://nist.time.gov/images/US_time_zones.gif).

Jerry C. Adams
IBM i Programmer/Analyst
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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ingvaldson, Scott
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 9:48 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: DST PTF(s) for V5R1?

What I saw in the History Log:

Job 681224/QUSER/QZRCSRVS ended on 11/06/11 at 01:59:34; .119 seconds used;
Local system time has been adjusted.
Message ID . . . . . . : CPD1689 Severity . . . . . . . : 00
Message type . . . . . : Information
Date sent . . . . . . : 11/06/11 Time sent . . . . . . : 01:00:00

Message . . . . : Local system time has been adjusted.
Cause . . . . . : Local system time has been adjusted to use a Coordinated
Universal Time offset of -360 minutes due to reason code 2. The reason codes
and their meanings are as follows:
0 - See previous messages.
1 - A Daylight Saving Time transition has occurred.
2 - The time zone currently used by the system value QTIMZON has changed.

Cleanup has started.
Job 681473/QPGMR/QCLNUSRMSG started on 11/06/11 at 01:00:04 in subsystem QCTL


Regards,

Scott Ingvaldson
Senior IBM Support Specialist


-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis [mailto:iseries@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 9:14 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: DST PTF(s) for V5R1?

Hopefully that "gradual" part is incorrect, and the system - like the rest of the non-personal computer systems in the world - merely "decodes/represents" the time differently rather than actually changing any clock. Nowadays, most systems use the applicable UCT offset to determine what the local time is/was.

Can anyone here confirm the internal process?
++
Dennis
++
"I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it."
-- Thomas Jefferson




Sent from my Galaxy tablet phone. Please excuse my brevity.
For any grammatic/spelling errors, there is no excuse.
++


"Jerry C. Adams" <midrange@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

An off-list reply mentioned that DST support may not have been added
until
V5R3 and enhanced in V5R4. And a search of PTF cover letters shows
nothing
older than 5.3.

The "nice" thing about having the system change the time, especially in
the
fall, if I recall correctly, is that the adjustment is gradual, not
instantaneous like I did. A quick change could have an adverse effect
on
things like journals. But ya do what ya gotta do, I guess.

Jerry C. Adams
IBM i Programmer/Analyst
Everything that can be invented, has been invented. -Charles Duell,
U.S.
Patent Office Director (1899)
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A&K Wholesale
Murfreesboro, TN
615-867-5070

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Nelson
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 8:05 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: DST PTF(s) for V5R1?

I don't recall which release introduced the link to an SNTP server, but
you
could whip up a program to change the time for you. Stick it in the job
scheduler to run on Sunday mornings, and have it read a 1 record file
containing the actual dates to increase or decrease QHOUR. Plug in the
dates
in January, and you're done for the year.



Paul Nelson
Office 512-392-2577
Cell 708-670-6978
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry C. Adams
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 7:25 AM
To: Midrange-L
Subject: DST PTF(s) for V5R1?

I'm pretty sure that this is a futile question, but, hey, nothing
ventured.



Yesterday afternoon (Sunday, 6 November) I checked our iSeries machine,
which is running V5R1. The time had not changed. Since no one works
on the
system on weekends, I changed the time manually. Is there a PTF
*still*
available for 5.1 regarding Daylight Savings Time? Our office admin
and I
were trying to remember if anyone had to do anything for DST back in
the
Spring, but I'm old and she's blonde, ergo neither of us could recall
anyone
doing a manual change.



I suspect that I'm stuck with changing the time manually from here on
out.



Jerry C. Adams

IBM i Programmer/Analyst

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game

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Murfreesboro, TN

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