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More correctly...

When you order the cume, IBM automatically ships the DB & hiper groups
along with the cume. If you're still using physical media, you'll see
separate sets of disks. IIRC, even on the downloaded images, you can
tell there are separate sets of images.

Also, note that the group PTF's are updated more frequently than the cume PTF.

Charles

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Vern Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Scott

I just heard an explanation of this again, at the Summit, from Tim Rowe,
I think. The cume also includes the database and hipers group PTFs. PTFs
in groups will also often get to the cume, but not necessarily.

Also, only by installing the group will you get that group level updated
- installing individual PTFs from the group doesn't do it. I seem to
remember problems when ordering more than one group PTF using Fix
Central, that the group markers somehow got lost.

A bit of a mess, true enough!
Vern
Hi Rob,

On 10/21/2010 2:42 PM, rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
Ordering and installing a cume will not upgrade the level of your tcp/ip
group.
Then I'm _very_ confused.

My understanding is that the cume contains the PTF groups levels from
_before_ the cume was built.  That you install extra group PTFs so you
can get fixes from _after_ the cume was built.

Are you telling me that the fixes in the PTF groups will never appear in
a cume?  So anything that has group PTFs is only updated by the group PTFs?



IBM, by default, ships the latest hiper and db2 group available at
the date you ordered your cume but includes no other groups.
That's true -- but they do that so that you'll have any HIPER/DB2 fixes
that created _after_ the cume was built.  At least, that's what I always
thought!

I'm not trying to dissuade anyone from installing the group PTFs!  Just
that you update the cume first, since it might bump your group level
from say 13 to 14.  Then you still have to install the latest group to
get it completely up to 15.
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