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John,

I think we're saying the same thing.

Now-a-days, I wouldn't expect to see anyone but QSECOFR to have *SECADM....

In fact, I kind of doubt *SECADM was ever given to other users.

Charles

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:37 PM, John Earl <john.earl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Charles,

On Mar 24, 2010, at 5:32 AM, Charles Wilt wrote:

You understanding is incorrect.

Example, department managers may be
able to modify their own people.  Note that I don't believe this type
of usage is common now-a-days with SOX ect.

You're right, this is getting more common, but I think it is
misguided.  If I wanted a Dept Head to manage their own people I would
do it with an adopted authority program (that logged extensively)
rather than make multiple people *SECADM.  In order to make the
DEPTHEAD=*SECADM method work you would have to give the Dept Head
*CHANGE or *ALL authority to all of those profiles which would provide
them with the ability to masquerade as those users or to create new,
rogue users.

Also note that even if I don't have *ALLOBJ special authority, if you
give me *USE authority to any profile that has it(or *USE to any
profile that has *USE to any other profile, etc. etc. ), I can assume
that profile's identity and exercise *ALLOBJ.  I just happen to think
giving any user *USE (or more) authority to any other users profile
exposes an unwarranted level of risk.  IMHO, use adopted authority
instead.


jte

Also note that a user with *SECADM cannot give another user special
authorities, such as *ALLOBJ, that the *SECADM user doesn't have
themselves.

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John Earl
President and CEO
Patrick Townsend Security Solutions
"The Encryption Company"

Olympia, WA | www.patownsend.com

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