Re: Media Safe fire ratings

I suspect that the average fire will burn about one hour longer than the
safe is rated for.

Regards,

Scott Ingvaldson
Senior IBM Support Specialist
Midwest Region Data Center
Fiserv.


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From: rob@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:rob@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:01 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Media Safe fire ratings

Part of it may depend on what you make. A small mom and pop fireworks
store in a strip mall dominated the news for about a day of live
coverage around here. No people were inside so the fire fighters had no
urge to run inside and wave their hoses around. Burned for hours and
hours.

If you are in a concrete building and make concrete with electrical
equipment your fire may be out as soon as someone dumps their coke into
the waste can.


Rob Berendt
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Group Dekko Services, LLC
Dept 01.073
Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com





From: ChadB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 01/08/2010 02:20 PM
Subject: Re: Media Safe fire ratings
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All good questions, but other than the first 3, outside of my scope...
;)

I did find one vendor that gave a statistic of the average business fire
burning for 20 minutes at a temp of 800 degrees (far below the rating of

he
UL 125 approved safes). It suggested that more inaccessible/rural
businesses would want to plan for more time before firefighters could
extinquish. Another vendor described the 2hr/3hr models as probable
overkill.

Not sure i'd want to explain having a 1hr safe in place in the event of
a
2hr fire, though...





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Better question, has anyone ever had a fire and had their media in a
fire
safe? If so:
- was the fire intense?
- How did the media come out?
- Any water damage from the fire fighters?

Or, Has anyone had their media in a fire save when a tornado wiped out
their building? Was the safe hard to find? Take long to dig through
the
rubble to find it?

Anyone have their media in a fire safe and get flooded, like Katrina?
Media ok?

Anyone used to use a media safe and switch to offsite after a
particularly
nasty event?


Rob Berendt
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Group Dekko Services, LLC
Dept 01.073
Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com





From: ChadB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: 01/08/2010 12:25 PM
Subject: Media Safe fire ratings
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx





We are looking into media fire safes for the storage of backup media and
software media... I have done a good bit of reading into ratings,
testing,
and specs, but am looking for some in the trenches opinions on what
rating
is reasonably needed (in terms of 1 hour, 2 hour, or 3 hour protection).
Has anyone out there purchased such a safe, and how did you decide what
is
a reasonable level of protection for the cost...?

I have a gut feeling on it, but curious what others may have done...

Thanks!
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