Re: BRMS, TS3100 and being totally ridiculous

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Hi Jerry, did anyone answer the question on running the media movement to change the location but not eject?? 
Thanks



-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Draper <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Jun 5, 2009 5:28 pm
Subject: Re: BRMS, TS3100 and being totally ridiculous



How can I run media movement process to change the cartridge location 
but not eject the tape?

That's what I want to do.

Jerry

Patrick Bingham wrote:
> If I remember right from a long time ago with an implementation of this type 
of scenario with a 3582 that only had 2 I/O slots.  To make it work you could 
run the maintenance to flag the cartridges to move offsite with the daily 
maintenance but tell it to not eject the tapes.  Then you can run the move 
process on demand but the tape would have to be removed from the I/O slots 
within a couple of minutes because the library operations would timeout after so 
many retries to put the next tape in the I/O slot.  So what you could do is have 
the operator run the move process while near the library and keep grabbing tapes 
until it stops sending them.  Not what I would call and ideal process.  
> Otherwise, you could just use the media movement process to change the 
cartridge location but not eject the tape, send a report of what tapes are to 
move offsite, then have the operator take the library offline and pull out both 
magazines, grab the cartridges from the report, put the magazines back and then 
bring the library back online.
> Again, not a smooth solution as just having the cartridges in the I/O station 
waiting for the operator.  
> Are the tapes full or is this a multiple system/partition backup?  Maybe you 
could append the data to the end of the tape (unless each save is a full 
system)?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of lgoodbar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 3:31 PM
> To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: BRMS, TS3100 and being totally ridiculous
>
> What does IBM say on the subject? Is 
it just with the TS3100 or any unit
> with a mail slot?
>
>
> I do not have a single-feed unit. We use a 3581 (7 slots with 1 occupied
> with barcode reader). The front panel opens to access the front 5 slots,
> the other 2 slots are accessed via front slots 1/2 or 2/3 (if using
> barcode reader). The BRMS move operation never attempts to eject the
> tapes.
>
> For what it's worth, our move policy "Verify moves" value is *YES:
>
> *YES
> Media moves performed for this move policy by the Move Media
> using BRM (MOVMEDBRM) command must be verified by you.
>
> *NO
> Media moves performed for this move policy by the Move Media
> using BRM (MOVMEDBRM) command are automatically verified by 
> BRMS.
>  
>
> Now our Windows servers tape drive is a PITA to use, just as you
> describe. The backup software (I forget the name) makes you eject 1 tape
> at a time, and you have to wait for it to deliver it to the mail slot.
>
>
> Sorry I could not help more....
> Loyd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry Draper
> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 12:44 PM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: BRMS, TS3100 and being totally ridiculous
>
> The lack of integration between IBM's BRMS and the IBM TS3100 tape 
> magazine/drive (24 slots) makes for an awkward system that cannot be 
> automated.
>
> BRMS is setup with a move policy that runs on Friday mornings.  We move 
> tapes once per week.  Eligible tapes need to have their locations 
> changed in the BRMS database from TAPMLB02 to OFFSITE.  A movement 
> report needs to tell the operator which tapes to remove from the system.
>
> Wouldn't it be nice if it worked seamlessly?
>
> Running tape movement causes a tape error because only one tape can be 
> "ejected" from the TS3100 at a time.  You just can't move tapes in BRMS 
> without the system trying to eject the tapes.