Re: moving rack mounted 525

Also realize that technically IBM Field CEs are to approve any rack the i
is installed into before it is certified maintainable. I realize that most
racks are not an issue but if an IBM CE rolls the unit out the front of
the rack to maintain it and the rack cannot take the torque and it fails
or it flips over forward and the CE should get harmed then you get to
discuss it with IBM Legal. You don't want to be in that position. (and
YES I have seen racks that IBM would NOT certify. They were best used for
bread and doughnuts not filled with creme.)

When you actually DO move the thing from one rack to another you will
likely not have access to all the parts used to mount it easily. To reduce
the weight of the system first thing out are the power supplies. Lots of
weight and little time to pull them. Second thing our are the drives. *IF*
you decide to pull drives label them first. Placing the load source back
into the wrong location is fatal. Also you could have more than one RAID
set or balanced mirroring up there. Drives and Power Supplies are nearly
half the weight.

- Larry
Larry Bolhuis IBM Certified Advanced Technical Expert:
Vice President System i Solutions
Arbor Solutions, Inc. IBM Certified Systems Expert:
1345 Monroe NW Suite 259 System i Technical Design and Implementation
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Grand Rapids, MI 49505
(616) 451-2500
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franz400@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Putting IBM equipment in non-IBM racks does not void any warranty or
service contracts as long as IBM has service clearances. Double Check
the the distance from front to rear o fte current and new rack. Now
what happens should a drive fail or the system fails to come up at the
new location? 2 answers
#1 IF IBM inspected, certified and shrink wrapped (sealed) the HW and
undid all that at the other end, IBM will fix under warranty.

#2 You do all the work and move the unit and something is broke after
the move IBM could bill you for parts ans service to fix.

It's already in a win type rack with the adapters, but not our rack.
Co is ending contract and moving to own win type rack, in a very

non-data

center location (save $$ by the IT director...).
Same CE for both sites.
Jim

---- Chris Bipes <chris.bipes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

It is not recommended to unrack a 0525. They are shipped in an IBM
rack. The are extremely heavy. I would move the whole rack. Double
check / Verify with your current CE and the CE who takes care of the

new

location to see if you will void your maintenance contract by moving

the

0525 from one rack to another. The 525 system unit is supported in non
IBM racks so that should be good to go.



Chris Bipes
Director of Information Services
CrossCheck, Inc.


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Subject: moving rack mounted 525

I've been asked (if they won't pay ibm to do it) to help move a 525

rack

system from one site to another, and into a diff rack . Have moved many
non-rack systems. Is there a locking mechanism for the 4327 drives or
other issues other than:
full backup, label everything,proper ground & uncable, move,recable,
startup?
525 cpu
0595 expansion
TS3100 2u tape system
The same IT staff just moved all the Win servers.
Jim Franz
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