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I ~was~ getting silly on that remark!

And no, this is not for sake of argument. I really do believe that IT is
better served building strategy and not applying cool tools on a whim.

As for systems management vs. applications, no one had actually drawn that
line, so I was trying to. Historically, Booth is all about green green green
forever for writing and producing applications. I know you are not, and your
focus was/is systems. I do believe that a green screen interface ~suits~ a
lot of people for the systems management function. And I understand the
desire to remain with something familiar. And I agree that IBM needs to fix
their non-green system management tools to be faster, have improved
functionality, etc.

But.. one day soon, there will be something that you canNOT do in green
screen. You will be ok, since you will have the other tool on your iPhone.
The people who rely on the green interface will be in trouble.






On 7/25/08 11:54 AM, "David Gibbs" <david@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Trevor Perry wrote:
If it is for system management, and I am out with David's wife for
dinner,

Now you're getting silly ... and I suspect you're arguing just to argue.

I brought my laptop! My argument was, that if I need to access my
'system' from an iPhone, why are you limiting it to a 5250 emulator?

Who said anything about limiting it. Using a 5250 emulator is just one more
tool in the repair kit.

The better reason for accessing my 'system' through my smartphone is
to access an ~application~.

I've yet to see a month end process that could be run through a web interface.
Of course my experience of late in the end-user application environment is
somewhat limited. Seems to me, however, that this kind of application hasn't
changed much.

I'm talking about system administration and problem determination ... not
normal user interactions to an application.

Responding to messages, submitting jobs, displaying data areas, displaying
physical file data, etc.

Yes, it would be great if you could do everything on your system via a web app
... but guess what. You can't. You can't on the i, you can't on linux, and I
don't think you can even on Windows.

My perspective is that I spend lots of time in the year talking about
strategy and modernization.

Which, imo, is great ... but doesn't really apply to system administration and
trouble shooting.

On this list, we talk about 'system' as though it is everything. From
a user perspective, they should only know about apps.

And I don't think anyone has suggested a 5250 app for iPhone be used by end
users.

P.S. I don't think David brings a laptop for lunch with his wife, nor
does he actually need one!

Very true ... but I do bring my iPhone.

david



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