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I contract at a place that's big enough to have an IBMer be involved,
but the actual sales are through a BP. So yeah, I see IBM sales folks
on a regular basis, but most smaller shops wouldn't I'll bet.

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Booth Martin <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Have you seen an actual IBM salesman in the wild? I haven't, not in a
good many years.

Michael Ryan wrote:
> Really? What's the difference? Sales of services vs. sales of product,
> but it's sales nonetheless.


> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Booth Martin <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Recently I read Tom Watson Jr's book about IBM and his dad, T J Watson.
>> IBM became great because T J Watson believed in sales. Everything he
>> and therefore IBM did was driven by a desire for sales. Today's IBM is
>> a far cry from what T J demanded.
>>
>>
>>
>> Pat Barber wrote:
>> > My view is hardly myopic and I was a BP for over 18 years, so I
>> > do have some knowledge of the market place and who is selling
>> > what.
>> >
>> > I have no complaints and my views are just that...my views.
>> >
>> > I could care less that you take offense.
>> >
>> > Did you actually read the part about "very few" are selling ?
>> >
>> >
>> > Trevor Perry wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> I take offense at the accusation that "nobody is selling the box".
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Whatever complaints you have, whatever myopic vision of a glorious green
>> >> past you have, the world is a better place with IBM bringing IBM i to the
>> >> mainstream.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>> --
>>
>> ---------------------------------
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>> http://www.Martinvt.com
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>>
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