Re: Happy i5/OS 2008?

sounds like a movie quote "come to the dark side Luke"....

as others besides myself have pointed out...it's a visibility issue. even
if we do USE the new name (du jour) the ones with the check books are the
one we have to get buy-in from. I'm just gonna leave it at that.

Have a Happy New Year....

Thanks,
Tommy Holden



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Hahah - rose-colored virtual utopia!!

I live in a world where I believe in something strongly - and that is
(currently named) i5/OS. I want it to succeed. Therefore, I want to
encourage all the people who call i5/OS by a name that is outdated, to
stop.

The only way to do that is to stop making excuses and stop blaming.
Whether
or not you LIKE what IBM did, they have done it. Making blame is just
wasting time, and not productive. Apparently, stopping the excuse and
blame
game can only be done in my rose-colored virtual utopia....

It is not a perfect world, but one where the inhabitants stop blaming IBM,
and start doing something about the perception of i5/OS. Calling the rose
by
any other name means the perception is not about i5/OS, but about the
other
name - and those are now out of date. It is 2008, call it by its given
name.

Come join me!



On 12/31/07 10:58 AM, "Tommy.Holden@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
<Tommy.Holden@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

why CAN'T we blame IBM for not thinking of a more usable and searchable
name? how can we DO anything about that?....simple we can't!

as to being lazy....using names that people will not be able to easily
find information about actually discourages them more than using

iseries,

i5, or as/400. am i advocating their use...to some degree maybe

so...only

to allow the decision makers to find out more about the platform. i
generally steer them to i5 or iseries. and as far as the newbies...i

was

referring to IBMs continuation of using as400 in the java toolkit.

there's

no where (at least to my knowledge) where connections, etc to the system
are referred to anything other than as400. is that something WE can

fix?

again no is the answer. we have to use what IBM gives us ... we have no
choice. yes we can all petition, scream, etc at IBM but will it truly
affect change? i don't think so. i believe in the system (regardless

of

it's moniker) but google really has nothing to do with the naming

choices

of any company other than their own...so we do we have that IS

responsible

for these things? IBM that's who.

I'm not absolving my responsibility nor or others here. we are stating
proven facts in the real world...not the world as you see it from behind
your rose-colored glasses. i agree with alot of what you say as far as
the system, but this is one subject where i live in the real business
world and you seem to live in a virtual "utopia"...

in a perfect world, IBM would have given the system a better, more
searchable name... the "i" in System i just isn't that search friendly

and

therefore less visible to the decision-makers in the real world. where

do

the decision-makers hear the name...from us, if we are the only readily
available source of information on the system then anything windows,
linux, etc related will overrun the system for good...why because they

can

more easily, readily find more info without having to dig through 1000s

of

hits on <insert your favorite search engine here>

Thanks,
Tommy Holden