RE: IBM not investing in i5/OS was: iSociety

Peter,

It's my understanding that Rational owns every language, compiler,
IDE..etc...

Don in DC

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I missed that (when IBM bought Rational).

I didn't expect it to be free, but I would've expected it to be part of
the compilers if it's provided by IBM. But as you say, I guess we're
going through the unbundle part of the bundle/unbundle cycle. When I
started in this business, they went so far as to bundle an SE with the
machine; I don't think it'll get that extreme again. Then they unbundled
everything and it's gone back and forth a couple of times. I'd think
they'd be able to figure out which model gives them the most revenue;
otoh, maybe switching it every few years gives them the big bucks.

You mention "language tooling" -- what exactly do you mean by that? The
IDE? Or are the compilers now under the IBM Rational umbrella?

*Peter Dow* /
Dow Software Services, Inc.
909 793-9050
pdow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:pdow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> /

Rational is part of IBM. IBM bought Rational five years ago almost to the
day, and have been steadily integrating the developers and their products
into what they've already developed via the earlier purchase of Object
Technology International (which was five or six years before that, and led
to Eclipse).

IBM has pretty much consolidated all of its language tooling under the
Rational umbrella, so if you don't like what Rational is doing, you're not
going to be very happy with IBM. And what Rational is doing is EGL. EGL

is

IBM's primary focus and will continue to be for the foreseeable future.
Expect to see EGL submitted to the appropriate standards bodies before

long.