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Aaron

I'm going to pick on your semantics a little - using Tomcat, you DO have a web server - it is just built into Tomcat. It is fairly automatic to set up and is a fine solution for lighter weight kinds of things, IIRC. And you can also tie in to Apache, etc. I'm not sure at what point one turns away from the internal web server and uses an external one. Does WAS also have an internal web server?

;-)
Vern

At 09:46 AM 11/12/2007, you wrote:

> You can't use a web application server without a web server, but you could
have just a web server
without a web application server.

You sure can, and it is actually my preferred method for some of the
projects I am on. Simply start up Tomcat on ANY machine and you have a web
application server. No need to front-end it with Apache/IIS/etc, but you
definitely _can_ if the business requirements necessitate it.

Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wilt, Charles
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:18 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Web server info

There's really only one "web server".

The standard HTTP server (powered by Apache) that ships with OS/400. (note
that I've heard of some
installing and using the latest and greatest version of Apache downloaded
directly from apache.org.)

There used to be another option, the original IBM provided HTTP Server for
iSeries which was dropped
at v5r3.
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/iseries/v5r2/ic2924/info/rzaie/rzaiemigration.
htm


WAS, WAS Express, and Tomcat are "web application servers" which are
separate and distinctly
different animals than "web servers".


You can't use a web application server without a web server, but you could
have just a web server
without a web application server.

What do you want to do?

HTH,
Charles



> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pat Barber
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:04 AM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: Re: Web server info
>
> Since I wasn't aware that there was even more than one, gives
> you some idea of how much I know on this subject.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions.
>
>
> Mark S. Waterbury wrote:
>
> >Hi, Pat:
> >
> >Exactly what "web server" are you talking about?
> >
> >If it is the standard HTTP server powered by Apache that ships with
> >OS/400, see:
> > http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246716.html
> >
> >Or, if it is WAS Express, see:
> > http://www.mc-store.com/5064.html
> >
> >Or, I suggest you might want to try Apache Tomcat. See:
> > http://www.itjungle.com/mpo/mpo021402-story02.html
> >and
> > http://www.itjungle.com/mpo/mpo021402-story05.html
> >
> >For starters...
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Mark S. Waterbury
> >
> > > Pat Barber wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Anybody recommend a "See Dick & Jane" book on getting
> started with the
> >>web server on V5R4 ???
> >>
> >>
> >>
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