Re: Link Loader Failure and B600 0901 after v5r2 cume install

Hmmm.
First off I have never found that a reload on an i5/iSeries/AS/400 is a required function. Sure if you blow it up bad enough it's the only way back but never 'just because'. Windows, Of course, i5/OS no need.

As to what went wrong with David's machine it's most likely that too many PTFs were applied all at one time. Normal practice for routine applies is to do CUME, Hiper, DB etc all at once and that usually works fine. In this case though there was a LONG time between the groups on the system and the current group and that meant too many PTFs. There isn't enough space for the Link Loader to do that so it goes *poof*. This is just another reason to stay current with PTFs. OK You get to define 'Current' :-)

The solution is to simply reload the SLIC - not a full system reload. Then do PTFs a little at a time.

So that you know the V5R3M5 and newer LIC versions have a MUCH larger link loader work space so you can pile on the PTFs once again with no problems.

- Larry

David C. Shea wrote:

Will do...

A scratch install is healthy. It pushes back against "entropy".

I find myself doing more 'entropy reversal' on PCs and laptops, but it
doesn't hurt on an AS400 once in a while.

The LIC is installed. Somehow it managed to remember my previous DST
QSECOFR passwords. I had to make up a different one and then change it
as soon as I got into DST.

The OS is loading from the tape now.

I'll let you know how it goes.

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shannon ODonnell
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:04 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Link Loader Failure and B600 0901 after v5r2 cume install

Let us know how this goes David. I may have to end up doing this as
well to
fix what I'm finding are a bunch of problems on my "gently-used" 520.
I hate to have to go as far as initializing and reloading everything but
it
might be easier to do that and then I'd know exactly what state my
system is
in, rather than trying to fight all of the phantom configuration issues
that
have been cropping up since I've had it (like HTTP Admin crashing and
never
coming back and Netserver continuingly failing to start, and WAS Apps
not
being able to load, etc..).


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David C. Shea
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 5:50 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Link Loader Failure and B600 0901 after v5r2 cume install

Here comes some good practice...

I booted off the tape. Picked the option to install LIC. I will now
choose option 2 - install LIC and initialize system.
Yes, I know this will wipe the disks...
Let's see if I remember...

Next I'll install the OS from this tape, then do a full restore...

Keep your fingers crossed.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 6:45 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Link Loader Failure and B600 0901 after v5r2 cume install

But - does anyone have any comments on this? I have never had a cume PTF croak the box like this... I think I'll restore to the tape I have and just leave it there... put a big skull and crossbones on the new cume... wait for the final v5r2 collection...

I had this happen to me back in 1990. Applied a cume package late in the

day, and the CPU LED stayed on as solid as the power lite. Like you it
was a development box, but in the middle of a major project. So I pulled an all nighter, scratched the disks, and reinstalled from tape.
I had a new operator ask me if PTFs cause problems. I explained that no,

it's normally a very smooth operation, however if it goes badly it can
go _VERY_ badly. Always do your backups before installing cume packages!


Steven Morrison
Fidelity Express