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That's pretty interesting John! I would have never thought of that. You
would have to know the one-way hash algorithm that the iSeries uses though,
wouldn't you to create a comparator?

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Earl
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:38 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Retrieve System i user's password?

Steve,


Well, you can not "exactly" retrieve a password, but you can come close
in many instances.

Because the password protection algorithm is a one-way hash, it's not
possible to decrypt the password from the store. The common way to
accomplish something similar is to do a dictionary check of the existing
passwords to see if you can find a match (where you encrypt a large
number of words and then compare each encrypted value to the actual
password - if you get an exact match, you've found a password). This
will tell you if a password is some combination of well known letters
and numbers (which might be what you want to know). If it isn't, then
the theory is that it is more secure than the average password.

If you really want to do an actual dictionary check against your current
password store, send me a note and I'll show you a product that does
this.

Thanks,

jte



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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-
bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Landess
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 10:07 AM
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Retrieve System i user's password?

All -

Correct me if I am wrong, but it is my understanding that you _cannot_
retrieve the password for an AS/400 - iSeries - System i user profile.
My
client's security department wants us to change our password "reset"
program to retrieve the user's password if they indicate *SAME, and
change
it to lower case. As far as I know, this is not possible...

Regards,
Steve
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