We just had the SAME PROBLEM - A split second power blip! System still
re-booting. We have a M/T 9910-140 UPS on our model 170. Anyone know
where I can go for batteries?
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mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lukas Beeler
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 4:04 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Weak Battery Options
The UPS integration with i5/OS leaves a lot to be desired anyway.
You can't even attach a network enabled UPS, there's no SNMP UPS
support.
And even with the serial attachement, you can't get much information out
of the UPS. We're mostly using Powerware 9125 UPSes with the System i
deployed to our customers. They can only be attached to a System i
machine using a relay card (making it impossible to attach other IT
systems to the UPS) - when attaching the UPS with a Web/SNMP card, I can
get all the information with a web browser, and it works out of the box
with both Linux und Windows machines.
Of course, this isn't a problem for all those big System i customers IBM
does care about - it's the Small Businesses without a datacenter that
are stuck with no real solution.
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Of Pete Helgren
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 10:23 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Weak Battery Options
Thanks Larry. I was leaning that way but it is rather peculiar that IBM
doesn't have some kind of system value to deal with the weak UPS battery
condition. The equivalent being the cache battery on the RAID
controller. IBM doesn't automatically degrade the disk performance,
they first give you a heads up and later degrade the disks when they
calculate that its time to replace the battery. It would be nice if IBM
had a setting that gave you the option of issuing a warning message on
the weak battery condition and a time frame of up to 30 seconds of
outage before shutting down the system on a loss of power with weak
batteries. Just assuming that the weak batteries aren't enough to
handle even the most transitory of power flickers seems an bit extreme.
Having JUST replaced my cache batteries last week, I am suffering from
battery fatigue I guess. I'll trundle down to my favorite battery place
tomorrow and pick up some new ones....hopefully before Rocky Mountain
Power sends me a "flicker" again. Once I take care of that I WILL take
a look at a program to be more reasonable about when to shut down the
system.
Pete
Larry Bolhuis wrote:
The short term solution is to pull the cable from the UPS to the 270.
Of
course this way if there is a real power outage you run until those
weak
old batteries area actually dead and then 'thud'.
Better would be a program handing the power rather than IBMs build in
code. This way you can do whatever you want. Set a message queue
other
than QSYSOPR (something like QUPSMSGQ for example) .and then set a
break
handling program on queue. The program then does what YOU want it to
do.
Best of course is new batteries. But you knew that. :-)
- Larry
Pete Helgren wrote:
It is set for 300 on this 270. I *think* that means that it should
wait
for 5 minutes before beginning the shutdown but it appears that when
it
detects a "weak battery condition" then it ignores the value and just
shuts down on its own.
Pete
Lukas Beeler wrote:
What's your System Value QUPSDLYTIM set to?
It should _NEVER_ be on *CALC with "normal" Systems. I usually have
set
it to 300.
*CALC is only used for Systems with an internal UPS. Those no longer
exist. And the 270 didn't have an internal UPS.
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