Re: IBM and the vanishing System i -- MIDRANGE-L

Joe,

My concern is that SOA is represented correctly. A 50,000 foot overview isalways good - and as SOA evolves and matures, it is nice to get the latestpicture.

I would suggest you could use some of the 'best' IBM speakers who are moreneutral in their perspective of SOA. That would include Al Grega, AlisonButterill and Pat Fleming, for starters. I saw Al and Alison in action atInteraction Melbourne in October - both were well received for theirstrategic and technical view. All three can offer you the high levelperspective, along with the technical detail worthy of OMNI. The advantagewith these speakers is that they are not going to be offering you Websphereas the only solution for SOA, and they will not be wanting to sell yourattendees any services.

I apologize if there were any slight laid on OMNI about this. You know mypersonal SOA perspective, and I am determined that it is approachedcorrectly - as an architecture, not a technical solution. My concern is thatif we sell Websphere as SOA, and Leonardo is a Websphere guy, we are back tomisrepresentation - something to which you and I are vehemently opposed.On the other hand, as the new Community and Networking leader for COMMON, Iam working hard to provide additional support for LUGs. OMNI is definitely aleader in that regard, and I would like to see your efforts benefit otherLUGs. SOA is important to all of them, and I would like to see nomisrepresentation made there, either.


Trevor

----- Original Message -----From: "Joe Pluta" <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 12:18 PM
Subject: RE: IBM and the vanishing System i

From: Trevor Perry

I was assured it was you who opposed the SOA sessions that were
specifically cancelled. I was told all SOA sessions were cancelled.
Apparently someone lied.


You're awfully sweet in suggesting that I have the power to overrule the
entire board of Omni <grin>.  Rest assured that all decisions on the board
are made as a whole.  Whoever "assured" you was yanking your chain, and
evidently quite successfully.

I am glad you are having SOA represented at OMNI. I am ratherdisappointedthat after your words to me at devcon about how SOA should berepresented,
you are now having IBM's perspective on SOA as the only one you chose.
Especially after you agreed with my assertion that IBM uses SOA to sell
Websphere,


Actually, I'm less worried about WHO talks about SOA as to WHAT they talk
about.  We've basically been hearing the exact same 50,000 foot buzzword
speech for several years now; it's time to start actually putting these
things into practice, which our sessions will cover.

and you expressed thanks for the neutral way I approached SOA.


I guess THAT particular olive branch was a wasted effort <smile>.

Your past outcries against SOA don't fit with using IBM as the correct
representation of SOA.


My "outcries against SOA" amount to not wanting to hear any more blue-sky

theory. SOA without implementation details is as satisfying as EDIwithoutspecifications. In fact, we already have that... it's called WebServices!

And using an IBM Websphere speaker for SOA is confusing..


Again, what we're doing is what we ALWAYS do at Omni: we provide sessions
and speakers heavily weighted towards specific technical implementation
details.  We've always used IBM speakers, and always will, and Leonardo is
the guy.  Whom would you have recommended?

Joe


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