Re: IBM and the vanishing System i

The web site says...Details/Registration soon!

Now would be cool...

On 1/9/07, pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx <pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Let it go, guys. OMNI has been planning an SOA session at our February
tech conference for quite a while. You are all welcome to join us. Our web
site is: www.omniuser.org       We're even having 2 different half-day
labs the day before the conference.
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Um, I guess I don't see how "opposition to SOA" would have bearing on this
omission....  Surely I'm not mistaken that SOA is the basis for most IBM
middleware currently being produced, and that SOA is clearly the focus of
IBM's developer roadmap....  So, why omit an entire server family from
this paradigm?  Such discrimination just reinforces the "legacy" image of
our platform.

IBM can't even be counted upon to mention System i in its development
redbooks, so why would we expect anything BUT opposition to this
technology....

I was fortunate to be able to attend an SOA workshop at the IBM TEC in
Dallas.  IBM has the tooling and the necessary resources to support SOA
development on System i, but that message never quite gets communicated
properly.  It concerns me a great deal.....

Eric

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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Trevor Perry
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:25 AM
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Subject: Re: IBM and the vanishing System i


Joe,

Since there has been some major opposition to SOA in the System i World -
including here on Midrange-L, why would IBM consider it a value
proposition
to run on System i?

I hear a large Chicago user group named OMNI has dropped SOA from its
upcoming conference. If SOA is dropped from System i conferences, no
wonder
IBM SOA documents ignore the System i platform.

Trevor


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Pluta" <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 9:40 AM
Subject: IBM and the vanishing System i


> Far be it from me to want to intentionally give Steve any more ammo for
> his
> cannon, but here's a little piece that really pisses me off.  It's an
IBM
> Redpaper entitled "Powering SOA with IBM Data Servers".  If you read the
> abstract below, you'll see NO mention of the System i or of i5/OS.  Nor
is
> there anything in the entire 754 page Redpaper, either.
>
> It's possible that we're left out because this is all due to cool DB2 V9
> features, but I guess I don't understand why those features are
available
> for z/OS and not for i5/OS.
>
> Joe
>
> http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247259.html
>
>
> Abstract
> Flexibility in business has become equal in importance with operational
> efficiency. Service-oriented architecture (SOA) can help businesses
> respond
> more quickly and cost-effectively to the changing market conditions by
> promoting reuse and interconnection of existing IT assets rather than
> time-consuming and costly reinvention.
>
> SOA has been the top fashionable topic in IT for a few years now. This
is
> because there is a consensus of opinions among enterprise architects
that
> SOA is the key to making the IT department a catalyst for growth and
> innovation.
>
> This IBM Redbook helps you get started with SOA by showing the
> implementation of the minimum requirements: The creation of Web services
> that allow access to data that is stored in data servers or applications

> and
> the realization of interaction services for business to consumer
> integration. The data servers included in our scenario are DB2 for z/OS,

> DB2
> for Linux, UNIX and Windows, Informix Dynamic Server and IMS.
>
> This redbook is a roadmap showing how SOA can significantly improve the
IT
> business value.

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