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Yes, Mike, exactly!   

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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of QSCANFSCTL
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 10:53 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Saving the IFS

What directory was it processing when it failed? Was it
'/QOpenSys/QOpenSys/QOpenSys ....' ? There are recursive links in the
IFS that windows applications don't handle very well ...

Mike Grant
Bytware, Inc.
775-851-2900 

http://www.bytware.com



-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Cavaiani
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 5:19 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Saving the IFS


This was rolling along nicely until I received the "insufficient 
memory"
error - caused by the excessive length of the directory structure for 
a given file's location.  Is there a way around this other than to 
exclude that particular directory?


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_
Create a share for the IFS root directory.  Then create this batch 
file:


NET USE Z: \\iseries\root password /USER:userid ECHO QSYS.LIB > 
%TEMP%\OMITLIST XCOPY Z:*.* C:\ISERIESBACKUP /H/I/C/K/E/R/Y/D 
/EXCLUDE:%TEMP%\OMITLIST DEL %TEMP%\OMITLIST

Where "iseries" is the domain name or IP address of your iSeries, 
"userid" is user profile on the iSeries with sufficient authority to 
read the IFS, and "password" is the password for userid.

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This is pretty much the procedure I am trying now and which appears to

be working fine!

All of the suggestions sounded logical, and I appreciate the input of 
each expert who responded.

Thanks! 

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jones, John (US)
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:47 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Saving the IFS

Create a share for the IFS root directory.  Then create this batch 
file:


NET USE Z: \\iseries\root password /USER:userid ECHO QSYS.LIB > 
%TEMP%\OMITLIST XCOPY Z:*.* C:\ISERIESBACKUP /H/I/C/K/E/R/Y/D 
/EXCLUDE:%TEMP%\OMITLIST DEL %TEMP%\OMITLIST

Where "iseries" is the domain name or IP address of your iSeries, 
"userid" is user profile on the iSeries with sufficient authority to 
read the IFS, and "password" is the password for userid.

If you want to exclude other directories in addition to QSYS.LIB, add 
additional ECHO commands _after_ the first one as follows:
ECHO dirname >> %TEMP%\OMITLIST
The >> is intentional and means append to the file.

I have not tested the above in total, however the NET USE works and I 
use XCOPY with the listed parms sans the /EXCLUDE all the time.

That said, this may not capture everything so be sure to watch for 
messages.

Also, this does an incremental backup - anything on the source that is

newer or newly exists is copied to the target.  That way you're not 
copying the entire IFS dir structure every time; just the changes.  
The first time you run it the batch will copy everything, after that 
it should be much quicker.

John A. Jones, CISSP
Americas Information Security Officer
Jones Lang LaSalle, Inc.
V: +1-630-455-2787 F: +1-312-601-1782
john.jones@xxxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Cavaiani
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:20 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Saving the IFS

Lukas,

I guess I am thinking that this would be done from the Windows side - 
with just a xcopy command which would access (by drive
letter) and copy
all of the IFS '\'.  Just not sure what the exact format/procedure 
would be. Wondering if anyone has already tried that?

Thanks,
Don

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lukas Beeler
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 6:02 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Saving the IFS

Hi Don,

Your question isn't as easy to answer as it might seem.

There's the SAV command, which can be used to save IFS objects to a 
save file. I'm not sure if you can create save files on the QNTC 
filesystem, which would allow you to access a remote windows pc 
(without any special software installed, the SMB Server is standard 
with every windows install). Using SAV would probably be the most 
complete way to generate a backup off your files.

There are other options, like creating tar or zip archives using the 
tar or jar command respectively in the Q-Shell environment (started 
with the command STRQSH). You could save these directly to the QNTC 
filesystem, but you would lose authorities etc. on your files if you 
choose this route.

What do you want to achieve? I would recommend doing a Save
21 at least
weekly, which includes a save of the IFS (to tape).

Hope this helps,

Lukas

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Cavaiani
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:51 PM
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Saving the IFS

Is there a single command which will copy the entire IFS onto a PC 
hard drive (as a backup)?  Would I need Client Access installed on the

PC?

Don F. Cavaiani
IT Manager
Amerequip Corp.
920-894-7063
 
'Treat every person with kindness and respect, even those who are rude

to you. Remember that you show compassion to others not because of who

they are but because of who you are.'--Andrew T. Somers

"When faced with the choice of being 'right' or being 'kind', choose 
the kind option every time."


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