Re: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists? -- MIDRANGE-L

A lot of it is cost. I can remember when I was with a data comm company, and
we would exhibit at the big shows in DC and Atlanta. It was very, very
expensive. I dunno if that's changed, but that's the way ir was.

On 10/24/06, Rebecca.Perdue@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <Rebecca.Perdue@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Why does no one ever use the Washington, DC or Atlanta area?  There are
also nice facilities in the Research Triangle of Raleigh.

Rebecca Perdue, Systems Programmer
City of Roanoke Department of Technology
215 W. Church Avenue, 4th Floor North
Roanoke, VA 24011
540/853-2942
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   1. RE: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?
      (Mike Cunningham)
   2. RE: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists? (Al Barsa)
   3. Email relaying with authentication? (lgoodbar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
   4. Re: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?, And COMMON
      Focus in Columbus (jimo)
   5. Re: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?, And COMMON
      Focus in           Columbus (pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx)
   6. RE: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?, And COMMON
      Focus inColumbus (Haase, Justin C.)
   7. UPS connection (Bonnie Lokenvitz)
   8. RE: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists? (Chuck Lewis)
   9. Re: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists? (Michael Ryan)

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message: 1
date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:33:35 -0400
from: "Mike Cunningham" <MCUNNING@xxxxxxx>
subject: RE: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?

So, it sounds like the Northeast/MidAtlantic region is prime for a new
"conference city" that is affordable. Maybe I will talk to our
Mayor....

Yes, COMMON at Toronto was nice and I did attend that one and drove.
Same for when COMMON was in Baltimore. For me it's a 3 hour drive to any
major airport (usually to one of the cities I mentioned in my first
posting), if that was also the final destination it would be a lot
easier to arrange and justify to my employer.

I understand the economics for the conference organizers but it would
be nice if all three of the ones I referenced would spread themselves
out.  It may be that we pick the Boston conference as our yearly
destination.

>>> Jon.Paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 10/24/2006 12:09 AM >>>

>> Seems like all the major iSeries conferences have forgotten about us
in
the Northeast ...

Well COMMON was in Toronto only a year ago ... Minneapolis after that.
Those are both in driving distance from most of the locations you
mention.
Chicago wasn't that long ago either.

NY, NJ, Boston have all pretty much priced themselves out of the market
and
travel is too horrific for anyone locally to want to go.  Same problem
in
some respects with conferences in LA - can't get the locals.

When I was working with RPG World we ran one conference in Chicago (did
OK)
and more recently in Cleveland (a total bust).  Whether one likes it or
not,
a fair percentage of likely attendees prefer to pick destination
cities.
That means Miami, San Diego, San Francisco, Orlando, and Vegas.  There
are a
few others but those are where you can guarantee an audience.  So if I
run a
conference in the Northeast and one in one of those cities - guess
which one
everyone will save their pennies for?

Couple of other points:

Vegas hotel rooms are typically cheaper than elsewhere - subsequently
any
difference in air fare is moot.  Frankly distance is not a huge
differentiator in air fares - I can quite often go from Toronto to LA
for
less than I can get to Chicago for example.  So unless you are in
driving
distance, location makes very little difference to the fares.

When we run the first of our new conferences next spring it will
almost
certainly be on the west coast, we may run one in the east in the fall
- but
even then there's no way NJ, NY or Boston will be on the list.

Jon Paris
Partner400

www.Partner400.com
www.SystemiDeveloper.com

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message: 2
date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:41:25 -0400
from: Al Barsa <barsa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?

Toronto was really nice.

Baltimore was not.  Hotels were bad and the convention center was huge.

Boston was good, if we could keep it in the hotel.  COMMON is now small
enough that we should be able to keep it in a hotel, and avoid all
convention centers in the future after Anaheim.

Al

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So, it sounds like the Northeast/MidAtlantic region is prime for a new
"conference city" that is affordable. Maybe I will talk to our
Mayor....

Yes, COMMON at Toronto was nice and I did attend that one and drove.
Same for when COMMON was in Baltimore. For me it's a 3 hour drive to any
major airport (usually to one of the cities I mentioned in my first
posting), if that was also the final destination it would be a lot
easier to arrange and justify to my employer.

I understand the economics for the conference organizers but it would
be nice if all three of the ones I referenced would spread themselves
out.  It may be that we pick the Boston conference as our yearly
destination.

>>> Jon.Paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 10/24/2006 12:09 AM >>>

>> Seems like all the major iSeries conferences have forgotten about us
in
the Northeast ...

Well COMMON was in Toronto only a year ago ... Minneapolis after that.
Those are both in driving distance from most of the locations you
mention.
Chicago wasn't that long ago either.

NY, NJ, Boston have all pretty much priced themselves out of the market
and
travel is too horrific for anyone locally to want to go.  Same problem
in
some respects with conferences in LA - can't get the locals.

When I was working with RPG World we ran one conference in Chicago (did
OK)
and more recently in Cleveland (a total bust).  Whether one likes it or
not,
a fair percentage of likely attendees prefer to pick destination
cities.
That means Miami, San Diego, San Francisco, Orlando, and Vegas.  There
are a
few others but those are where you can guarantee an audience.  So if I
run a
conference in the Northeast and one in one of those cities - guess
which one
everyone will save their pennies for?

Couple of other points:

Vegas hotel rooms are typically cheaper than elsewhere - subsequently
any
difference in air fare is moot.  Frankly distance is not a huge
differentiator in air fares - I can quite often go from Toronto to LA
for
less than I can get to Chicago for example.  So unless you are in
driving
distance, location makes very little difference to the fares.

When we run the first of our new conferences next spring it will
almost
certainly be on the west coast, we may run one in the east in the fall
- but
even then there's no way NJ, NY or Boston will be on the list.

Jon Paris
Partner400

www.Partner400.com
www.SystemiDeveloper.com

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message: 3
date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:50:38 -0500
from: lgoodbar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
subject: Email relaying with authentication?

We have a corporate project to migrate our mailboxes from Exchange 2000 to
Exchange 2003. Part of the migration process is a discussion over allowing
anonymous relaying from the internal network. Our iSeries is configured to
use the Exchange server as its relay point. If corporate decides to use a
form of SMTP relay authentication, does OS400 support this natively (SMTP
with MSF)? How about running our own relay/SMTP server? We're at V5R2, and
most of our email is handled with Brad Stone's MAILTOOL.

Thanks,

Loyd Goodbar

Senior programmer/analyst

BorgWarner

E/TS Water Valley

662-473-5713

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message: 4
date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:31:05 -0500
from: jimo <igor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?, And COMMON
                 Focus in Columbus

<snip>
Good luck getting a hotel room that weekend. OSU is at home.
</snip>

Paul,

We have already addressed this multiple times.  The game is on
Saturday!!!!!  COMMON Focus starts Sunday!!!!

The COMMON staff has already talked with the hotels and all is well.
Besides that COMMON has a block of rooms for attendees.

There will not be a problem getting hotel rooms for COMMON Focus!!!

COMMON Focus will be in Columbus, Ohio, October 14 - 17, 2007.

iGor:  aka:  Jim Oberholtzer, COMMON Director.

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message: 5
date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:58:59 -0400
from: pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
subject: Re: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?, And COMMON
                 Focus in                Columbus

   OK. Glad to hear it.
   --

   Paul Nelson
   Arbor Solutions, Inc.
   708-670-6978  Cell
   pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
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     Subject: Re: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?, And
COMMON
     Focus in Columbus

     <snip>
     Good luck getting a hotel room that weekend. OSU is at home.
     </snip>

     Paul,

     We have already addressed this multiple times.  The game is on
     Saturday!!!!!  COMMON Focus starts Sunday!!!!

     The COMMON staff has already talked with the hotels and all is well.
     Besides that COMMON has a block of rooms for attendees.

     There will not be a problem getting hotel rooms for COMMON Focus!!!

     COMMON Focus will be in Columbus, Ohio, October 14 - 17, 2007.

     iGor:  aka:  Jim Oberholtzer, COMMON Director.

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message: 6
date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:06:16 -0500
from: "Haase, Justin C." <justin.haase@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?, And COMMON
                 Focus inColumbus

Who is this queen of disco?
- Donna Summer
And how does her name appear in the phone book?
- Summer Donna
Stretch it out now...
- Summmmmmuh Daawwwwnnnna
Little more now...
- Summmmmmmmmuh Daaaaaannnnnaaa
That's right!  SIMMA DOWN NOW!!!

LOL... Good news on the hotel rooms.

--
Justin C. Haase - iSeries System Engineer
IBM Certified Systems Expert - System i
Kingland Systems Corporation

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Focus inColumbus

   OK. Glad to hear it.
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   Arbor Solutions, Inc.
   708-670-6978  Cell
   pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
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     Date: 10/24/2006 09:31AM
     Subject: Re: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?, And
COMMON
     Focus in Columbus

     <snip>
     Good luck getting a hotel room that weekend. OSU is at home.
     </snip>

     Paul,

     We have already addressed this multiple times.  The game is on
     Saturday!!!!!  COMMON Focus starts Sunday!!!!

     The COMMON staff has already talked with the hotels and all is
well.
     Besides that COMMON has a block of rooms for attendees.

     There will not be a problem getting hotel rooms for COMMON Focus!!!

     COMMON Focus will be in Columbus, Ohio, October 14 - 17, 2007.

     iGor:  aka:  Jim Oberholtzer, COMMON Director.

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message: 7
date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:17:54 -0400
from: "Bonnie Lokenvitz" <BLokenvitz@xxxxxxxxxx>
subject: UPS connection

Our network admin replaced the UPS on our 520.  Is there anyway from the
AS/400 side

to determine that all is well with the new UPS?  I see nothing in the
log configuring

a new device.

Thank you,

Bonnie Lokenvitz

  Technology Consulting Inc

  320.679.2599

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message: 8
date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:28:17 -0400
from: "Chuck Lewis" <chuck.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?

What did you think of Indianapolis ?

Chuck

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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Al Barsa
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 9:41 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?

Toronto was really nice.

Baltimore was not.  Hotels were bad and the convention center was huge.

Boston was good, if we could keep it in the hotel.  COMMON is now small
enough that we should be able to keep it in a hotel, and avoid all
convention centers in the future after Anaheim.

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.

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message: 9
date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:38:49 -0400
from: "Michael Ryan" <michaelrtr@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?

I for one thought Indianapolis was great. Hotels were good, venue was
good,
and that steakhouse with the crazy hot shrimp cocktail was marvelous. I'm
thinking of going back to Indianapolis just for dinner...it's about a 5
hour
drive.

On 10/24/06, Chuck Lewis <chuck.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> What did you think of Indianapolis ?
>
> Chuck
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Al Barsa
> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 9:41 AM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: RE: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?
>
> Toronto was really nice.
>
> Baltimore was not.  Hotels were bad and the convention center was huge.
>
> Boston was good, if we could keep it in the hotel.  COMMON is now small
> enough that we should be able to keep it in a hotel, and avoid all
> convention centers in the future after Anaheim.
>
> Al
>
> Al Barsa, Jr.
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