RE: Nightly saves

Nick,
Our daily backup is only 12 minutes yet the AMFLIBE library alone is over 62 
Gb.  That's a 520 to a 3581 tape unit.  It's not the 12 minute window I'm 
concerned about as much as tape unit problems or even more so the "E AM-0358 
Time limit to get dedicated mode exceeded" message when MAPICS can't end a user 
job that has sysctl lock.
Bryan


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Bryan,

We are on MAPICS XAR6 with V4R5 of the OS, and we do your options 1,2,3 
and 6.  We use ROBOT to schedule our backups.

We have a custom CL for our backups.

Ends subsystem QINTER and RFINTER, for our scanners, and starts subsystem 
Backup.  Do a SAVLIB (Monday nights) and SAVCHGOBJ (other days of the 
week) to SAVFs.  After each save to SAVF, I submit a job to do the actual 
save to tape for each library and then clear the SAVF after it writes to 
tape, so the saving process is faster and my Users can get on quicker. 
This is for selected  *USER libraries on our system.  We do a full system 
save Monthly for all libraries on the system.

Our Monday backup takes about 2 hours, and the daily is about 65 minutes. 
I am in the process of trying to see if it will be faster to FTP the SAVFs 
to our network, than it is to use the 400's tape drive.


HTH,

Nick


Nick Radich
Sr. Programmer/Analyst
EPC Molding, Inc.
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I need to revisit our backup approach and I'd like to conduct a poll.  Do 
you do any of the following for your nightly backup?

1. End QINTER SBS?
2. End just active jobs in QINTER?
3. Save to disk?
4. Perform a GO SAVE 21?
5. Perform another GO SAVE option?
6. Perform your own SAVLIB CL?

We do 2 and 6.  (Actually, we count on our ERP system [MAPICS] to do 2, 
but it doesn't always do what we need it to).

Thanks,


Bryan Burns
M.I.S. Department
ECHO, Incorporated