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Right you are - FC7133 is the concurrent maint cage for the 270.  Good
thing they don't sell them anymore so I can now waste a spot in my brain
for that info!  LOL! 

-=-=
The #7133 is a DASD six disk cage for the Model 270. The #7133 enables
disk unit concurrent maintenance and replaces the standard base
non-concurrent maintenance DASD six disk cage.
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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wilt, Charles
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 8:53 AM
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Subject: RE: Disk failure procedure

Nope, IIRC the concurrent maintenance capability was a function of the
drive cage.

Whereas the RAID capability was a function of the disk controller card.

Charles Wilt
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America
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fax: 513-398-1121
  

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Haase, Justin C.
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 9:07 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Disk failure procedure

Thought if it had RAID it was concurrent-enabled. 


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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wilt, Charles
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 8:07 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Disk failure procedure

Note that concurrent maintenance was optional on the 270.

You may have to shut down the box to replace the drive.

Charles Wilt
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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Haase, Justin C.
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 9:00 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Disk failure procedure

Concurrent maint
Remove DDxxx
Concurrent maint
Add DDxxx
Disk recovery menu
Rebuild disk unit data
Select disk to rebuild
Wait an hour
WRKDSKSTS, F11 to ensure no longer "FAILED" and now "ACTIVE"

Done! 

Parity will auto-recover as will the ASP part.


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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pete Helgren
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 6:19 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Disk failure procedure

Yes.  I checked the system builder, too.  I was just worried that I 
was going to pull the wrong unit.

OK, with that cleared up, are there instructions for
replacing a disk
unit somewhere?  I looked at the Backup and Recovery guide and the 
System Builder but I don't see any step by step.  I guess I
need to do

"Concurrent Maintenance" on the unit to remove it.  Put the
new one in

and then ?  Just add it back into the ASP and start parity
protection?

Pete


Haase, Justin C. wrote:
And looking in my handy-dandy system builder...

D05 is the fifth from the left on the skinny 270.  D01 is
on the left
and D06 is on the right.

If you have the expansion attached, the disk numbering
starts at the
bottom of that with D08 and goes to the top with D20.


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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pete Helgren
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 4:50 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Disk failure procedure

I have a disk that has failed on my model 270.  I am just
a little
fuzzy on the the replacement.  I have another drive that I can 
install.  My problem is that I don't know which drive to replace.
System Operator message queue has the following:

Unit    6 with device parity protection not fully operational.

Cause . . . . . :   Unit    6 is part of a disk unit 
subsystem with
device   
  parity protection.  Unit    6 requires service. The 
data has been
saved.   
  Reduced performance, machine checks, and possible data loss can
occur
if   
  this condition is not corrected.  The following information 
identifies the
  unit requesting 
service:                                                   
     Disk serial number:               
68-0CF6ADE                            
     Disk type:                        
6718                                  
     Disk model:                       
070                                   
     Device resource name:             
DD006                                 
 



 Disk status shows the following:

             Serial                  Resource  Hardware      
 ASP  Unit   Number      Type Model  Name      Status        
   1     1   02-35300    6718  074   DD001     DPY/Unprotected
   1     2   02-015B2    6718  074   DD004     DPY/Unprotected
   1     3   02-03760    6718  074   DD002     DPY/Unprotected
   1     4   02-03423    6718  074   DD003     DPY/Unprotected
   1     5   68-0D0E009  6718  070   DD005     DPY/Unprotected
   1     6   02-0CF6ADE  6718  070   DD006     DPY/Failed    

Do the unit #'s listed here represent the position in the
"cage" these

drives are in?  The only reason I ask is that when I look at the 
hardware details for unit #6 I see the following:

 Type. . . . . . . . . . . . : 6718      
 Model . . . . . . . . . . . : 070       
 Level . . . . . . . . . . . : 5         
 Serial Number . . . . . . . : 02-0CF6ADE
 Resource Name . . . . . . . : DD006     
                                         
 Physical location:                      
  Frame ID . . . . . . . . . : 1         
  Card position. . . . . . . : D05       
  Device position. . . . . . :           
                                         
"Card Position" D05 seems to point me to the 5th slot in
the cage,
rather than the 6th.  I don't want to yank the wrong one.

Also, where do I find the "serial number" that is listed in the
detail? 
The serial number reported in QSYSOPR message queue is
different than
the detail on disk status (68-0CF6ADE .vs   2-0CF6ADE) Is 
it on the
drive itself so I can double check the it before I replace it?

Thanks.

Pete Helgren




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