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Unfortunately, I did not get the name of the lady who made that comment in my COMMON session. Al Al Barsa, Jr. Barsa Consulting Group, LLC 400>390 "i" comes before "p", "x" and "z" e gads Our system's had more names than Elizabeth Taylor! 914-251-1234 914-251-9406 fax http://www.barsaconsulting.com http://www.taatool.com http://www.as400connection.com rob@xxxxxxxxx Sent by: midrange-l-bounce To s@xxxxxxxxxxxx Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 09/25/2006 09:05 cc AM Subject Re: US DST Changes - 2007 Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@midra nge.com> I believe they were misunderstanding. To the best of my knowledge all counties adopted DST. What unexpectedly happened is that many counties switched from ET to CT. Which, while he initially claimed "free choice" sent the governor into a tizzy and he rescinded that and really put the strongarm down. He is under the belief that the map of the US says nothing but "here be dragons" for all points west of Indiana and our sole purpose is to serve east coast businesses. Again, to the best of my knowledge all counties adopted some form of DST. But to find out otherwise wouldn't surprise me - there's a lot of independence in this state. Kinda like it that way. Rob Berendt -- Group Dekko Services, LLC Dept 01.073 PO Box 2000 Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com Al Barsa <barsa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 09/24/2006 02:18 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject Re: US DST Changes - 2007 When I did my "It's About Time..." session at COMMON last week, I said that Indiana adopted it this year, and someone in the audience said "Not all counties". Al Al Barsa, Jr. Barsa Consulting Group, LLC 400>390 "i" comes before "p", "x" and "z" e gads Our system's had more names than Elizabeth Taylor! 914-251-1234 914-251-9406 fax http://www.barsaconsulting.com http://www.taatool.com http://www.as400connection.com rob@xxxxxxxxx Sent by: midrange-l-bounce To s@xxxxxxxxxxxx Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 09/22/2006 07:49 cc AM Subject Re: US DST Changes - 2007 Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@midra nge.com> I agree with your point on item 2 - they should have fixed the existing objects. However you bring up an interesting point in your earlier email about Canada. I too wondered if there were people in certain timezones that were not adopting the modified DST. Indiana finally gets force fed DST and now they want to extend it. This is going to go well. I am sure that if you can pick whether or not to adopt modified DST the courts in Indiana are going to be busy again. Rob Berendt -- Group Dekko Services, LLC Dept 01.073 PO Box 2000 Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com Al Barsa <barsa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 09/21/2006 06:40 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject Re: US DST Changes - 2007 I'm not really happy with appending the numbered suffix to QTIMZON for a few reasons: 1. The number of changes that we would ever be allowed to go to is 9, unless they go to alpha suffixes (at which point they should have started at "A" for the correct EBCDIC collating sequence). 2. You will wind up with obsolete time zone objects on your system. Admittedly they are small (8K), but everything you put in the way of SAVSYS slows it down. If the obsolete objects will *NEVER be re-used, then the PTF should have fixed the existing objects, assuming that they match the shipped values. 3. I think that changing the existing objects would have more consistent with the way the system enacts other changes. It appears that IBM is committed to this approach. Al - at 35,000 feet on the way back from (you know where) Al Barsa, Jr. Barsa Consulting Group, LLC 400>390 "i" comes before "p", "x" and "z" e gads Our system's had more names than Elizabeth Taylor! 914-251-1234 914-251-9406 fax http://www.barsaconsulting.com http://www.taatool.com http://www.as400connection.com "Tom Jedrzejewicz" <tomjedrz@xxxxxxx To om> "Midrange Systems Technical Sent by: Discussion" midrange-l-bounce <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> s@xxxxxxxxxxxx cc Subject 09/18/2006 04:12 Re: US DST Changes - 2007 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@midra nge.com> I hate the time changes. I hated them before this craziness, and I hate them even more now. Government nonsense ... My understanding ... 1. We should download and apply this PTF anytime convenient 2. After , and change our time zone to the appropriate "2" time zone (with the new DST definitions) after the first Monday this November and 1-March next year. Do you guys agree? On 9/18/06, Haase, Justin C. <justin.haase@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Downloading and applying... Stay tuned. I have a feeling that this fix makes it necessary to DL and apply, then switch to a new zone. If the gov't decides to switch it back, you'll just pop back to the old time zone setting. The fix is 58k, so an ECS download is fine... I guess I'll have your answer right now. Currently system is on QN0600CST. START = April/Sunday/1st/2:00:00AM END = October/Sunday/Last/2:00:00AM Downloaded, applied. No changes to the QN0600CST. Added the QN0600CST2. QN0600CST2 settings are as follows: START = March/Sunday/2nd/2:00:00AM END = November/Sunday/1st/2:00:00AM So - you have to DL and apply, and then ***AFTER THE FIRST SUNDAY IN NOVEMBER*** switch to one of the new zones. -- Justin C. Haase - iSeries System Engineer IBM Certified Systems Expert - System i Kingland Systems Corporation -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rob@xxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 1:47 PM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: Re: US DST Changes - 2007 The title for PTF SI24717 is "Additional time zones for United States" http://www-912.ibm.com/a_dir/as4ptf.nsf/9939a36675eadb978625710200584cbd /11ff964a7d83baac862571c500528178?OpenDocument For example, I am on QN0500EST. I don't see any changes to that. I do see a set of new ones: QN0500EST3 Eastern Standard Time / Eastern Daylight Time QN0600CST2 Central Standard Time / Central Daylight Time QN0700MST3 Mountain Standard Time / Mountain Daylight Time QN0800PST2 Pacific Standard Time / Pacific Daylight Time QN0900AST2 Alaska Standard Time / Alaska Daylight Time QN1000HAS2 Hawaii-Aleutian Standard Time / Hawaii-Aleutian Daylight Time Will this handle any date changes on the existing time zones? Rob Berendt -- Group Dekko Services, LLC Dept 01.073 PO Box 2000 Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com "Haase, Justin C." <justin.haase@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 09/18/2006 02:23 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject US DST Changes - 2007 Go here: http://tinyurl.com/fmfwj It's an APAR from IBM about the DST changes for 2007 for the US. V5R3 PTF = SI24716 V5R4 PTF = SI24717 And before the deluge comes, daylight saving time ends in 2006 at 1:59am on October 29th. Go to the following links for info on the why and when, as well as calculators for US and EU. http://webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/ http://webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/b.html Search the archives of midrange.com on recommended ways to "fall back" and how the newer hardware and OS versions do it for you. -- Justin C. Haase - iSeries System Engineer IBM Certified Systems Expert - System i Kingland Systems Corporation
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