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2.  The 'best practices' for HMC document that i've seen from IBM does say
that the HMC should be within a certain distance of the i5, but that's
really the only recommendation.  So if the KVM is within that magic
distance you should be fine.

Ours is in a remote location from some of the i5s because it will be
managing several i5s in different locations on the campus.

                                                                       
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1.  Sure - why not?  You can WebSM in for most operations anyway.
2.  Who cares - a KVM will not an HMC damage.  If your CE has a problem
with it, I'd probably look at getting a new CE.
3.  Depends on the brand of KVM, I'd take WebSM over one of the sol'ns I've
seen before.
4.  Depends on the brand of KVM.  Some allow for multiple sessions (say 2
people using 2 or 24 boxes) to attached machines, some don't.

Just get a good KVM vendor on the phone and they'll be able to go over the
specifics.  The newer HMCs are 100% USB though, so make sure they can
handle that.

The main thing to remember is that HMCs are PCs and xSeries servers with
changed machine types and models.  Anything you can generally do for KVM
for an xSeries you can do with these.

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IBM Certified Systems Expert - System i
Kingland Systems Corporation

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Now the questions become:
1 - Do we want to do this at work?  We already KVM a bunch of IXS cards,
etc
2 - Do CE's get testy if the HMC is in one rack with the i5 and the KVM is
in a rack on the other wall?  Do we care?
3 - Having not personally used access to the KVM is it easier to do than
loading the download on each PC required to use the full GUI HMC access?
4 - Can multiple people access the KVM at the same time?  Meaning two
concerns:
4a  =  If the local user is using it, can I access it remotely when called
to see what went wrong on a GO SAVE 21 at the same time?  Like I do with
Shared session on the HMC.
4b  =  If one fellow is using it to handle a Wintel issue can I still
access it remotely to deal with HMC?

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Yeah, no tricks were required and no problems have been seen from using a
KVM.


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We do. No problem.

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Has anyone KVM'd their HMC?

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(I assume that includes the LCD screen)
If you buy the rack mount (which includes the slim lcd) it is $3800.
If you buy the desktop you can get "#1876 L200P Flat Panel
Monitor(desktop)"
for $1645.

I am guessing I can just get the appliance and use my own keyboard,
mouse
and monitor.

Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com


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