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If you really will be getting into LPARs, it will get rid of your need for
a twinax console because you'll be able to use your HMC as a console.  The
problem there is that LPAR will complicate your config because of hardware
dependencies for the various partitions... the cost will go up also because
of that and the addition of the HMC.

With that said, for a first timer you've got a good detailed set of
requirements and a pretty good handle already on what you want and need.
You're doing better than alot of people already!  Do you have access to a
good IBM Business Parter?  A good one can be a great help...

                                                                       
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Without going into the specfic details...
<snip>
 Is 600/30 cpw enough horsepower to run a machine with less than 5
developers on it at a given time?</snip>
Yes it should be.  Note there may be some slow downs when using some of
the more labor intensive stuff (i.e. java, etc).  But I have worked on
lil 170's with less than a GB of memory with up to 10 pgmrs on at once
with no problems..  I think the memory may need to be upped a little for
java, etc (not entirely sure since we don't have that much java stuff on
our system here.  Twinax....ewww.  I see no need for twinax from now to
eternity.

FWIW, years ago I leased a box (a very small 150 LOL) through the ISV
program & was throughly pleased with the service, etc.  Have fun with
it...I know I did....

Thanks,
Tommy Holden


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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of albartell
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 8:06 AM
To: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: **SPAM** First time buying System i5

Hi Everyone,

For a variety of details I wont dive into, I am now tasked with
purchasing/leasing my first System i5.  I am actually quite excited
because
it is the same feeling I get when I buy a new PC, except this time I
have
next to zero knowledge on what I need to tell the friendly guy on the
other
end of the phone.  I am coming at this from an Partnerworld ISV
standpoint
where they give what seems to be pretty darned good deals for leasing or
buying (i.e. 1% of list price per month or 50% off list price). Note
that
this is strictly going to be used for development and does not need to
be
HA.

Here's what I need to be able to do on the machine:
1. Develop RPGILE/CLLE/CLE/SQL code (need to be able to compile at V5R1)
2. QShell environment.
3. Ability to run Java natively AND in a servlet container (Tomcat is my
app
server of choice)
4. Ability to have more than one LPAR (rep tells me I need an HMC to
accomplish this. The HMC is some sort of Linux appliance that gives you
control over your different LPARS)
5. Backup code and files (talking less than 1 or 2GB). Do I need addtl
hardware for this or can I back to a network device?
6. Less than 5 profiles on 5250 at any give time.
7. DB2 and Query and SQL capabilities
8. WDSC and PDM (I already have WDSC 6.0)
9. Apache and SSL capabilities

My retail price range is $10k to $15k which from what I can tell will
get me
a solid entry level machine.

Based on the "Quick Pricer PDF" emailed to me, here is what I THINK I
need,
but I am lost as to if I have everything covered.

Model/Server Feature SW Tier: 520-0975 P05
CPW: 600/30 cpw
Edition Name: Value
Processor Speed: 1.9 Ghz Power 5+ includes L3 cache on 1200/60 cpw
version
Processor Feature: 8325
Edition Featue and Price: 7350 $8,200
ESA 24x7: $110

Some things I don't understand or need clarification on:
1. What are "feature codes"? (i.e. 8325, 7350, etc).  For instance, it
appears as though feature 7350 is a package deal of some sort.
2. From what I understand ESA gives me 24x7 access to support vs. just
within business hours (seems like a good deal for only $110 more).
3. What is "5250 CPW 30"?  Is that how much processing power is given to
green screens?
4. When they say "Disk Drive" on this page: http://tinyurl.com/pbpxa,
what
are they referring to? A harddrive? A backup drive of some sort?
5. Do I need a "Twinax Adapater"?  Is that if I want to connect an old
school console directly to the machine?
6. What's the difference between the "Comm Adapter" and "Ethernet Lan"
on
this page: http://tinyurl.com/pbpxa
7. Is 600/30 cpw enough horsepower to run a machine with less than 5
developers on it at a given time?
8. Is 1GB of memory enough to do general RPG development with some small
Tomcat/Java and native Java mixed in there?

Thanks to anyone that can help this lowly programmer buy his first
iSeries
:-)

Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com









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