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Re: iTera - Echo 2 Training input.

I forgot to include that there is no need for any knowledge of RPG for 
learning/supporting the Echo2 software.  Some knowledge of CL would be 
helpful in automating some of the auditing processes that iTera 
recommends, but they include samples in their libraries and the training 
manuals.

Thank you,
Ronald L. Zimmerman
I.T. Applications Manager
Swiss Valley Farms, Co.      http://www.swissvalley.com
"The Good for You Company"
Email: Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 07/17/2006 09:39:27 AM:


Jake,

After reading this expanded description of your two guys, I would say 

that 

your Win guy will be an adequate choice.  As another responder said, he 
will probably be a System i convert in a short time!

Thank you,
Ronald L. Zimmerman
I.T. Applications Manager
Swiss Valley Farms, Co.      http://www.swissvalley.com
"The Good for You Company"
Email: Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 07/17/2006 09:18:41 AM:


Ron, Al;
Thanks a lot for the responses. I appreciate it. The RPG guy is not 

very

interested in going and we are just taking volunteers but the Win guy 

is

very interested in going. He does know quite a bit about remote 

journaling

as compared to the RPG guy. I want the RPG guy to go but he is a 

senior

member of our team and we cannot be coercive with him...:). The Win 

guy 

does

not know any RPG programming but knows all our PF's and dB structure 

pretty

well and has good knowledge about remote journaling. We are at a catch 



22

right now but I really appreciate your input and that is what I was 

exactly

looking for.

Thanks again,

Jake.

On 7/17/06, Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 

<Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

wrote:


I would concur with Al.  I have been to the iTera training.  Anyone 

who

does not have a good understanding of the System i, it's command, 

and 

it's

architecture would probably be very lost.  There is absolutely no
knowledge of the windows necessary for using Echo2.

In your case, I would definitely opt for the RPG programmer.  He/she
should have no problem at all with understanding and learning the 

Echo2

software.

By the way, the iTera training is some of the best I have ever seen 

in

over 30 years in this business.

Thank you,
Ronald L. Zimmerman
I.T. Applications Manager
Swiss Valley Farms, Co.      http://www.swissvalley.com
"The Good for You Company"
Email: Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx



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I've never been to iTera training, although I am a Lakeview/MIMIX 

BP. 

I

suspect that a Win Environment person is the wrong person.

The likely candidate needs to know the System i, with a reasonable
knowledge of journaling and database.

Al

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Good morning Pro's,
We have a dilemma this morning and hopefully I can get some input 

from 

the

pro's which could point us in the right direction. I was wondering 

if

anybody has attended the iTera training in Salt Lake City, UT. We 

are

trying
to send two personnel for the training and were wondering who would 

be 

a

good fit for the training. Does the trainee need to be very well 

versed

with
System i or just need to have good amount of knowledge about the 

libraries

and files.

    My first choice is a totally Win environment guy who barely uses
System
i. He just uses the DB2 to retrieve, update data. He has all the 

knowledge

about the libraries and files on our system. Our second choice is a 

RPG

programmer and he has no knowledge about Win environment whatsover. 

He

knows
our System i very well though. The second guy would be our Network 

Admin

so
we are good there.

    So, I was wondering if anybody had attended the training? If so, 



any

kind of input would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Jake.
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