Re: [CPF0000] The globalization of COMMON, or is this the right direction?

In the case of our narrow corner of the world, they do. They take away
what few AS/400 jobs there are in the US. So it was OK w/ you, that I was
unemployed for one year, and then spent close to 2 years, in a very very
junior level position, as an operator. What does an AS/400 operator do in
a small shop btw? Not a helluva lot I can tell you. I interviewed alot
during those years, and always, always, I saw foreigners in those shops.

Well, it's not OK w/me. Yes, I got damn lucky to get my upgraded job thank
God. But how many guys like me are still down in their luck, simply
because we have these foreign guest workers?

AND I have to make up for a lot of lost income during those years, and
replenish my savings, and retirement which had nothing coming in.

Steve Merer

Hi,

<quote>"guest workers" of any type hurt an  economy. </quote>

Wow ! what a statement !

You are bashing about facts,
and don't state any economical figure  in your message yourself...

how about the UN Repport on the "International Migration and Development"
http://www.un.org/esa/population/hldmigration/Text/Report%20of%20the%20SG%28June%2006%29_English.pdf

I'm sur you know it much better than the UN ..,
but they state that foreign workers help both local and foreign economy

(there even might be some figures in it?)

luc


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Pluta" <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 6:55 PM
Subject: RE: [CPF0000] The globalization of COMMON,or is this the right
direction?

From: Trevor Perry

Joe,

From what I know, by spending money in India, the US is making more

than
they spend. This would mean that while some of the wealth shifts there,
more of it comes back.

This is absolutely untrue!  You've said this in various forms various
ways,
and provided absolutely no facts to support your propositions.  Instead,
here are REAL hard facts: temporary workers in ANY host country send
much
of
their money home, thereby draining the host economy of money that would
otherwise circulate.  So by definition "guest workers" of any type hurt
an
economy.

Second, please show me any correlation between money sent to any
offshore
consultancy firm and money returned to the US economy.  In fact, quit
with
the empty rhetoric and provide a single verifiable fact.

And, even if this is not 100% true, the part about "destroying the
standard
of living of Americans" can not be blamed on globalization. The
argument
about the divide between rich and poor might be a more relevant debate
-
and yes, this applies all over the world.

It's not simply rich and poor, Trevor.  I have no problem with ALL the
industrial nations (including India and China) putting some money aside
for
building basic infrastructures in countries like Liberia.  I am talking
about industrialized nations which cannot support their own populace and
yet
continue to grow.  If a country is industrialized and has a low standard
of
living but refuses to control its population growth, then it isn't being
a
good global neighbor and thus in my view loses all claim to any benefits
of
globalization.

Joe


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