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Re: HMC or LAN Console

It was from Neoware I think I read... we would be very interested in it,
but it looks like it might be a while.  (We are a big thin client shop...)

                                                                           
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I saw that also. The IBM'er was showing it on behalf of another company,
and "testing the waters" to see if folks might be interested in such a
device.
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IBM was showing at Minneapolis Common Expo a "possible" alternative,
a HMC like hardware device (no pc needed) ethernet attached but only of
hmc functions. A dedicated console not requiring windoze. Reminded me of
a thin client. I liked it.
Small shops do not want to dedicate a pc, and even if they do, as soon as
you
leave they move it somewhere else...., plus like every pc in the network -
Win Updates, antivirus, and all other maintenance issues. Not sure how
this
device get's it's updates.
jim franz
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> Not bad compared to the several twinax terminals we had to have laying
> around to support all the terminals going belly up.  And I'd hate to see
> the space used up in a machine room with 24 twinax terminals that could
be
> replaced with 1 hmc.  Unless one has a fondness for the NASA look.
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> Good point too.  We have an 890 with 24 partitions using Ops Console.
> We have to always have a spare PC or two around, as the PC's tend to die
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> Besides the fact that they almost never, ever break?
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> On 5/15/06, Larry Bolhuis <lbolhuis@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> I completely agree. HMC is better in many ways even for a single i5
>> shop. Add in multiples and it's better yet.
>>
>> You will need to use a WinDOHs based PC if you want to use graphical
>> disk management but that's small potatoes and no reason to select LAN
>> console in this environment.
>>
>> Some clod suggested Twinax. I gotta find that guy and smack him. :-)
>> IMHO there is no justifiable reason to ever use a twinax console
> again.
>> Ever.
>>
>> - Larry
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>> Haase, Justin C. wrote:
>> > HMC!
>> >
>> > Keyword:  reliability.
>> >
>> > Reasons:  remote firmware updating, all-in-one management, less
> physical
>> > machines to manage, etc.  I have never had a HMC console fail me.  I
>> > can't think of a reason to do LAN console vs HMC in this situation.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Justin C. Haase - iSeries System Engineer
>> > IBM Certified Systems Expert - System i
>> > Kingland Systems Corporation
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>> >
>> > For a non-LPAR shop running 3 different 520s in 2 different
> locations (2
>> > at one site and 1 at the other), would you choose an HMC or a LAN
>> > Console setup?  Reliability, security, and managability are the main
>> > concerns rather than a difference in cost.
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