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Jerry

Jerry Adams wrote:
Rob Dixon wrote:

What you seem to be saying is that if we all do it your way, then the debate is dead.

It seems to me that you wish to crush us into submission. As your record seems to be stuck, this is not a very effective way of influencing opinion.

It seems that most contributors to the thread have a particular point of view and, like the oak tree, won't bend.
But most accept that there can be more than one viewpoint.
Trevor's a crusader (but, then, so was Don Quixote) and all crusaders, as well as the opposing Saracens, are very firm in their commitment. The whole thread reminds me of seminary students debating whether there's a hell or not. Removing the rhetoric, though, Trevor is right.
I think that he is saying that we must modernise rather than saying we should improve. Any system, interface, etc., can always be improved. If we improve without using a mouse then I imagine that he would not be happy.

I got round the problem by enabling 5250 function keys using Javascript in my browser window so users can choose how they operate - 5250 or GUI

I think that most of us, myself included, have looked at our existing panels and assumed that putting a mouse or gui interface on top of them would not improve things. Probably true. Soon after the thread began (who started this thread, anyway?!), I took a tour of our shop; mostly data entry. Now, our order takers are fast! Sometimes the customers calling in can't keep up. But with just a little imagination, I saw half a dozen (commonly used) programs that - if they were re-engineered, not just gui-ed - could be improved.
If the changes can be cost justified and you have the resources - fine.


It is time to move on.

It is indeed. The other point that, I think, Trevor has been trying to make is that it is our careers on the line. Thirty-five years ago I programmed for 96-column cards and such.
Forty years ago I was working on 80 column cards but I was involved in building major on-line systems in the later 1960's
Then they brought in a terminal. Then a scanner. Etc. We've now got more tools available to us in the System i than any sane person could want; just imagine the possibilities!

Seems like if DVORAK didn't work, the keyboard is considered by the industry as an outdated model anyway!! :-)

Here I must humbly disagree with Trevor's assessment. The DVORAK keyboard failed to catch on simply because of the entrenched user set. Maybe that tells us something.
Rob Dixon



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