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  3. May 2006

Re: DBCS and the IFS

Vengoal,

Thanks so much for this.  This is what I had suggested to
the user earlier, to change their job to 937 and then
specify 950 as the ASCII code page (which is I believe what
you described).

When I saw the job's CCSID, it kind of clicked why things
weren't working since it was a 37 code page for the job,
yet trying to convert DBCS data from a completely different
character set.

Again, many thanks for your help and suggestions!

Brad
 

On Thu, 04 May 2006 08:36:08 +0800
 Vengoal Chang <vengoal@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Brad,
> 
> When your system CCSID is 65535, and your languageID is
> 37, all job's 
> default ccsid is 37.
> If you want to use system default text translation will
> use ASCII 819 as 
> client code page.(for example CPYFRMSTMF, CPYFRMIMPF,
> CPYTOSTMF, 
> CPYTOIMPF ..., or C API open, write with option
> create,codepage, O_TEXT..)
> 
> you could not specfy 950 as a system or job ccsid, you
> need set your job 
> ccsid as 937.
> You have two option to converting to client code page
> 950.
> 1. run job ccsid as 937, and PF File CCSID as 937, run
> system command 
> (above list command), this forced the system use
> 937<-->950 mapping, but 
> this is limited to external descript PF with DDS field
> type O or J. If 
> you create a temp PF with CRTPF (xxx) RCDLEN(nnn)
> IGCDTA(*YES) under Job 
> CCSID 65535, the temp PF's CCSID still is 37, and you use
> the file doing 
> converting under FTP or other CPYTOxxx, CPYFRMxxx, you
> will get the 
> mapping error.
> 
> 2. Use API CDRCVRT to convert PF data, don't care waht
> ever CCSID in PF 
> or STMF. This method bypass the system ccsid or job
> ccsid. But use this 
> method with FTP put to PC file, remember use binary mode
> to transfer it. 
> Or use the samba client to put and get file from PC
> share(samba client 
> installation step reference 
>
http://www.iseriesnetwork.com/isnetforums/showthread.php?t=42978&highlight=samba
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Vengoal
> 
> -------- Original Message  --------
> From: "Brad Stone" <brad@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re:DBCS and the IFS
> Date: 2006/5/3 ?? 10:44
> 
> >I'm opening it with the CCSID specified, that part has
> >always worked.  We're trying 950 as the CCSID.
> >
> >I also thought about the job CCSID and default CCSID as
> >these are used to create the PF that is used, read in,
> and
> >converted to an IFS file.
> >
> >The user has 65535 as the job CCSID and 37 as the
> default
> >CCSID.
> >
> >I though because his job CCSID was not 937 (or even the
> >CHRID system value), this created the file used with a
> >CCSID of his job, then trying to convert that CCSID to
> 937
> >could be the issue.
> >
> >Maybe?
> >
> >On Wed, 3 May 2006 08:57:35 -0500
> > Bruce Vining <bvining@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>What is your open statement?  What release are you on
> >>(prior to V5R1 would 
> >>be a problem)?  What is your job CCSIDand job default
> >>CCSID (in case you 
> >>don't have O_CCSID specified with an explicit value)?
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"Brad Stone" <brad@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> >>Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>05/03/2006 08:50 AM
> >>Please respond to
> >>Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> >><midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>
> >>
> >>To
> >>Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> >><midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>cc
> >>
> >>Subject
> >>Re: DBCS and the IFS
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Sorry, that should have read "opening the stream file",
> >>not
> >>spooled file.. :)
> >>
> >>On Wed, 03 May 2006 08:08:53 -0500
> >> "Brad Stone" <brad@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>    
> >>
> >>>I'm getting a "conversion error" message when trying
> to
> >>>open the spooled file with 950 as the code page.
>  Would
> >>>it
> >>>make a difference on V5R2?
> >>>
> >>>Brad
> >>>
> >>>On Tue, 02 May 2006 23:17:12 -0500
> >>> "Brad Stone" <brad@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>Thanks, Vengoal.
> >>>>
> >>>>We will give this a shot!
> >>>>
> >>>>Brad
> >>>>
> >>>>On Wed, 03 May 2006 08:33:32 +0800
> >>>> Vengoal Chang <vengoal@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>Traditional Chinese DBCS iSeries CCSID: 937
> >>>>>mapping to client ASCII is 950. You need change IFS
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>ccsid
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>by CHGATR 
> >>>>>change IFS STMF ccsid to 950.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>When you use FTP to put  binary file to iSeries the
> >>>>>default iSeries 
> >>>>>CCSID is 819, but if you use quote type c 950, you
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>will
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>>get ccsid 950 STMF.
> >>>>>When you copy file from PC to iSeries under
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>NetServer
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>share or using 
> >>>>>samba client copy pc shared file from iSeries, you
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>will
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>>get ccsid 1208 
> >>>>>or 1252. You also need manual changet to STMF 950.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Best regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Vengoal
> >>>>>
> >>>>>-------- Original Message  --------
> >>>>>From: Bruce Vining <bvining@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> >>>>><midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>Subject: Re:DBCS and the IFS
> >>>>>Date: 2006/5/2 ?? 11:44
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Brad,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>If you have Chinese characters that you are
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>>attempting
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>>to convert then 937 
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>is the better way to go.  1175 is a proper subset
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>of
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>the
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>characters found 
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>in CCSID 37 (CHRID 697 37) and contains no
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>>Traditional
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>>Chinese characters. 
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>937 contains the 1175 character set plus the DBCS
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>>935
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>>character set.  You 
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>will also want to convert to a CCSID other than
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>819
> >>    
> >>
> >>>as
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>>that's just ISO 
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Latin 1 (again no Traditional Chinese).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Bruce
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>"Brad Stone" <brad@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> >>>>>>Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>05/02/2006 09:40 AM
> >>>>>>Please respond to
> >>>>>>Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>>>><midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>To
> >>>>>>Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>>>><midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>cc
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Subject
> >>>>>>Re: DBCS and the IFS
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks Bruce.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>It shows the CCSID to use for ASCII (if I'm
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>reading
> >>    
> >>
> >>>it
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>>>right) is 819, but there seems to be some
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>>traditional
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>>>chinese characters that don't get converted
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>properly
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>from
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>EBCDIC to ASCII.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Brad
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>On Tue, 2 May 2006 08:53:12 -0500
> >>>>>>Bruce Vining <bvining@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Brad,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>If you go to the V5R4 Information Center and
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>
> >>search
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>on
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>1175 you will find 
> >>>>>>>that 1175 is the default CHRID for the English
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>
> >>>Upper
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>>and
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>Lower Case DBCS 
> >>>>>>>NLV (2984) and the SBCS CHRID for CCSID  937
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>(Traditional
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>Chinese).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Bruce Vining
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>"Brad Stone" <brad@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> >>>>>>>Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>05/02/2006 08:11 AM
> >>>>>>>Please respond to
> >>>>>>>Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> >>>>>>><midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>To
> >>>>>>>Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> >>>>>>><midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>>cc
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Subject
> >>>>>>>DBCS and the IFS
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I am working with a customer who is running
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>
> >>QCHRID
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>1175
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>and
> >>>>>>>having problems with DBCS conversion from EBCDIC
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>
> >>to
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>ASCII
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>while writing to the IFS.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I can normally find what CCSID to use in the
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>conversion
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>in
> >>>>>>>the IBM documentation, but in this case I find
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>
> >>>little
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>>>>mention of this CHRID in any tables.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Anyone familiar?  I believe it's a traditional
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>Chinese
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>character set.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Thanks!
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