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Steve, 
        I agree that some thought needs to accompany this process, but its
not that hard.  If you cannot delete a profile because it owns objects, you
simply re-assign ownership when deleting the profile.  Not that hard.  You
can simply wrkusrprf xxxxx, then give an option 12 to display owned objects.
Putting option 9 in front of the objects and then specifying the new owner
on the command line is all you need to do.  You can now simply change the
ownership.  
        
Larry

Larry Ketzes
Senior Security Project Analyst
American Life Insurance Company

One ALICO Plaza
600 King Street
Wilmington, DE 19801
Phone: 302-594-2146
Mobile: 302-559-1631
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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Martinson
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:11 PM
To: midrange forum
Subject: RE: Supplemental Groups

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  "That is why many admin's suggest you have individual profiles own their
own objects when they are created."
   
  End Snip
   
  I respectfully and whole-heartedly disagree with this statement.  The fact
that individual user profiles own objects quite often caused MUCH grief to
administrators, most notably when BOB leaves the company (or gets hit by the
beer truck).  I see this all the time (and I'm at a different client site
practically every week).  They try to delete his profile, but it owns
bunches of objects, including device descriptions and who knows what else.
So... they leave it there (hopefully *DISABLED with password of *NONE)
because they can't get rid of it. 
   
  The owner of newly created objects should be set to the user's primary
group profile and this should be coupled with group profile entries within
authorization lists to facilitate access to the application programs and
files.  Of course, if you can avoid getting too deep into supplemental
groups, that's always better (as someone already mentioned).
   


Best regards,

Steven W. Martinson, CISSP, CISM
Consultant - Servique, LLC

Cell 281.546.9836
www.servique.com 
4801 Woodway Drive, Suite 300E
Houston, TX 77056

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