Re: Say Hello to IBM System i5!

Agree - we spent money and time and it's slowed down to non-use.  The issue
I struggle with is that there is always some problem or performance issue
(real or perceived) that stops the change.  Forget that 80% of the tool
works fine and gives you some nice advantages and focus on the 20% that is
of concern or a problem.  Heck I even had one developer who did all of her
coding (using the programmers menu mind you) on a terminal because the PC
was to slow.......I finally put my foot down when we dropped maintenance on
our 3477's.  I think I'm still hated for that........




midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 02/03/2006 08:41:57 AM:

> How about a shop where management
> - paid for onsite training for the new tools
> - upgrades your PC to support the new tools
> - Will gladly purchase books on how to use the new tools
> - Will send personnel to COMMON, etc to learn the new tools
> Yet more than half still use 5250 tools and some of the people using the
> newer tools use the CODE editor instead of LPEX editor.
> I still feel that we should have deleted, renamed (security wouldn't work
> for another issue that burns me) or something, all of the STRSEU genre of
> commands.  At least for 30 days after the training class.
>
> Change?  Bah humbug, that's for users!
>
> Rob Berendt
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> Trevor Perry wrote:
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> > I disagree wholeheartedly. The world of the typical green screen
> developer
> > is SEU and PDM, and it takes a LOT of work to have them even attempt
> WDSC
> > and RSE. Open-minded is not a paradigm in that world.
>
> Not sure where you've been, but in many shops the tools used by the
> developer are chosen by management.  Often sited as part of their
> standards, there are issues of support (by other developers) and
> integration (for example, change management).  This is bad from the
> developers point of view as far as learning new technologies. Sure there
> are some who don't want change, but I don't believe this is the majority
> and certainly not on these lists.
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> Keith
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