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I've now done 2 upgrades to V5R3 using C5298 with build dates on them of 
12/03/05 or later and had no problems.

I did a Go PTF #8 and loaded the CUME and HYPER/DB Group cds. After the 
last CD it informed me that I needed IPL and to apply 1 or more pre-req 
PTFs and to return to Go PTF #8 after the IPL. After the IPL I did go back 
to # and a message came up informing me I had more PTFs to apply and gave 
me the option to re-ipl and finish install the PTFs which I did and all is 
well. I then applied the rest of my Group PTfs etc.

Looks like that have the install fixed... 


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RE: CUME 5298 - Update







I just installed CUME 5207 on all of our AS/400s.  Before I started I
read through SF98530 and noted that MF36693 & MF36564 had instructions
to apply them before any Group or CUME.

PTF MF35461 is listed on the CUME Install instructions as needing to be
installed before the CUME too.

Merry Christmas
 
Joel B. Harvell
Food Lion, LLC
(704) 633-8250 x2709
-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ingvaldson, Scott
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 8:53 AM
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: CUME 5298 - Update

That is my thought also.  I was surprised that these messages (in my
case) were associated with the DB and Hiper PTFs though.  This would
indicate that everyone would need to install SI17595, MF36564, & MF36693
before attempting any other PTF install, not just the Cume.  The
question would be, do we NEED all of them installed before applying any
further PTFs?

-----------------------------------------------------------------
APAR for SI17595:                The PTF apply process during IPL fails 
with
CPF3662 when a required PTF is not in the correct state.  For example, a
5722SS1 PTF was not applied because a 5722999 requisite PTF was not
permanently applied.

APAR for MF36564: The symptom is that the system crashes while trying to
signon to XPF.

APAR for MF36693: There are various instances during the apply of
licensed internal code PTFs where the linkloader allows modules to
crossover into alternate spaces. 
-----------------------------------------------------------------

In our production environment this makes the C5298530 (or Hiper #66)
install a two month process.  It would be nice if the instructions made
more obvious which PTF or PTFs require these prereqs, so that we could
install the rest immediately. 

Regards,
 
Scott Ingvaldson
iSeries System Administrator
GuideOne Insurance Group


-----Original Message-----
date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 00:42:48 -0500 (EST)
from: "Pete Massiello" <pmassiello@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: CUME 5298 - Update

Scott,


  If you had IPLed after installing SI17595, MF36564, & MF36693 before
loading the new Cume, I think you would have found the process would
have loaded and applied like a normal cume.

Pete

---------------------------- Original Message
----------------------------
Subject: CUME 5298 - Update
From:    "Ingvaldson, Scott" <SIngvaldson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:    Thu, December 8, 2005 12:38 pm
To:      midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
------------------------------------------------------------------------
--

> I ordered C5298530 on 12/01 and it arrived yesterday.  I had already
> downloaded SI17595, MF36564 and MF36693.  SI17595 was temp applied and
> the MF's were set to apply on IPL.  Since this is the test system I
> decided to try to install the Hipers (66) and DB (7) groups at this
time
> as well.
>
> Near the end of the Hiper and DB PTF load I received this message:
>
> =================================================================
>           Confirm IPL for Special Handling PTFs
>
> There is at least one special handling PTF that requires an IPL to be
> applied.  A special handling PTF exists for a PTF group indicating the
> PTF must be applied before the remaining PTFs in the PTF group are
> applied.  After the IPL, enter GO PTF and select option 8 again to
apply
>
> the remaining PTFs.
>
> Press F10 to confirm your choice to end all jobs on the system
> immediately and automatically IPL the system.
> Press F12 to cancel the installation.
> =================================================================
> I pressed F12 and did a normal IPL.  After the IPL MF36564 and MF36693
> were temp applied, but none of the other PTFs were applied.
>
> WRKPTFGRP shows:
> PTF Group             Level  Status
> SF99530                5298  Not installed  (was 5207)
> SF99529                  66  Not installed  (was level 60)
> SF99503                   7  Installed  (was level 6)
>
> When I did GO PTF option 8 now I got this message:
>
> =================================================================
>                     Continue PTF Install
>
>
> The previous PTF install was incomplete.  All PTFs were loaded from
the
> specified device, but the PTFs were not applied.  There was at least
one
> special handling PTF that required a normal mode IPL to be applied.  A
> special handling PTF exists for a PTF group indicating the PTF must be
> applied before the remaining PTFs in the PTF group are applied.
>
>
> Do one of the following to continue the install:
> o  Press Enter to continue the previous PTF install without loading
>     additional PTFs from an install device.
> o  Press F6 to load additional PTFs from the install device, and then
>     apply all loaded PTFs.
>
>
> Press F12 to cancel the installation.
> ================================================================Enter
set
> all of these PTFs to apply, I then loaded C5298530 and IPLed.
>
> After IPLing all groups show applied.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott Ingvaldson
> iSeries System Administrator
> GuideOne Insurance Group


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