RE: Everything is System state

Ahh!  Ed and Bruce, you two are wise beyond your years!  (And how many
years is that to be wise beyond???)

And now I am blushing because I got it wrong.  The client sent an object
description after I posted the note and indeed it is the object domain
that was listed as *SYSTEM, not he state that was listed as system...

 

Creation information:

  Creation date/time . . . . . . . . :   06/18/05  16:44:27

  Created by user  . . . . . . . . . :   ZZZZZ

  System created on  . . . . . . . . :   SSSSSSSS

  Object domain  . . . . . . . . . . :   *SYSTEM                     
         ^^^^^^                          ^^^^^^^

Sorry to have jumped the gun.  If I may quote Rosanna Rosannadanna....

Nevermind!

jte

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-
> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ed Fishel
> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 12:26 PM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: Re: Everything is System state
> 
> John Earl wrote on 06/17/2005 01:47:24 PM:
> 
> > We're talking to a client who has a problem where every
> non program
> > object they load, or create, on their system becomes a
> *SYSTEM State
> > object.  We've seen this on restores, as well as on the
> create of
> > individual objects (CRTLIB for example).
> >
> > Anyone seen this before?  Anyone have first hand
> knowledge of this?
> >
> > The system admin is new to the account, so he does not
> have a lot of
> > history on why things are like this and he would like to
> have it put all
> > back right.  Anyone have an idea on how to fix this?
> 
> John, I do not believe it. It seems more likely that
> someone has mixed up
> state and domain. Only a program object can have a state.
> All objects have
> a domain. The domain of almost all objects should be
> system domain. The
> biggest class of user domain objects would be program
> objects.
> 
> The reason that almost all objects are system domain is so
> that they can
> not be directly modified by a user state program. The
> reason programs are
> user domain is so that users and other user state programs
> can call them.
> 
> Ed Fishel,
> edfishel@xxxxxxxxxx
> 
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