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V5R3 allows a RGZPFM while the file is in use.  However, journalling is 
required.

Session 1:
CREATE TABLE ROB/EVAN (MYCHAR CHAR (15 ) NOT NULL WITH DEFAULT,
PRIMARY KEY (MYCHAR)) 
STRJRNPF FILE(ROB/EVAN) JRN(ROB/ROB)
upddta rob/evan 
inserted 4 records
dsppfm rob/evan
*...+.
zulu 
alpha 
yankee
bravo 
upddta rob/evan
deleted zulu
rolled down to yankee and have it up

Session 2:
RGZPFM FILE(ROB/EVAN) KEYFILE(*FILE) ALWCANCEL(*YES) LOCK(*SHRUPD)
CPD3198-Reorganize operation was unable to truncate file EVAN in  library 
ROB, member EVAN.
Recovery  . . . :   Exclusive use of the member is necessary to truncate 
the 
  deleted records at the end of the member. Specify LOCK(*EXCL) and repeat 
the
  reorganize operation again.  
CPC2983-Data in member EVAN reorganized.
dsppfm rob/evan
*...+.
alpha 
bravo 
yankee
DSPFD still shows the one deleted record.
Oh well, at least they're sorted.

Rob Berendt
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Evan Harris <spanner@xxxxxxxxxx> 
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RE: How to tell if an object is in use?






Hiya

The pesky lock issues are now transferred to the period when the RGZPFM 
has 
to be run -
potentially a much longer period of time and more of a pain to deal with. 
If you use a soft
delete as suggested, then alter the file to REUSDLT (presuming you can) 
and 
thereby
eliminate the RGZPFM and another potential lock conflict.

With respect to the original problem, if the user has just left the screen 

on, why is the object
locked ?

Perhaps altering the maintenance program so the record/object is only 
locked when an
update is actually occurring rather than locking the file when the 
procedure is entered
might be a better way to go

Apologies if this is not what is happening, it's just what it sounds like 
:)

Regards
Evan Harris


>Greg - have you considered handling this using a completely different
>method?
>
>After the pgm processes each record in the batch file, mark the record as
>deleted (either change a flag value to "D", or actually delete the 
record).
>(I would recommend changing a flag value so you can easily view deleted
>records).
>
>Later during the nightly or weekly maintenance runs, when the interactive
>system is down, purge the deleted records using a program and/or SQL and
>RGZPFM.
>
>Then you will never see those pesky lock issues!!
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Greg Wenzloff [mailto:GWenzloff@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 8:45 AM
>To: 'midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx'
>Subject: How to tell if an object is in use?
>
>
>I have a CLP that will process a file in batch then delete it. Sometimes 
a
>user first performs maintenance on the file but fails to exit the
>maintenance program leaving the file locked.    The CLP which runs in 
batch
>then hangs.
>
>I put the following code in the program that is about to submit the batch
>job:
>
>/* SOMETIMES USERS ARE IN MAINTENANCE IN ANOTHER SESSION */
>         ALCOBJ OBJ((&FILEE *FILE *EXCL *FIRST)) WAIT(5)
>         MONMSG MSGID(CPF0000) EXEC(DO)
>                 <<< send the user a message to get out of the file  >>>>
>                 ENDDO
>         DLCOBJ     OBJ((&FILEE *FILE *EXCL *FIRST))
>
>This ALCOBJ/DLCOBJ does not seem very elegant.   Is there a better way to
>tell if an object is being used by someone?
>
>Thanks,
>Greg

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