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Hey Paul,

It's rather lost in the translation.  I see your first suggestion.  Too 
much eye strain to look for anything else imbedded.

Rob Berendt
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Group Dekko Services, LLC
Dept 01.073
PO Box 2000
Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com





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size=2><DIV>How about a CRTPF with a CCSID of 37? That's what I've done in 
the 
past.<BR><DIV><BR><BR><BR>Paul&nbsp;Nelson<BR>Arbor&nbsp;Solutions,&nbsp;Inc.<BR>708-670-6978&nbsp;&nbsp;Cell<BR>pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx<BR><BR><DIV><BR></DIV><FONT
 
color=#990099>-----midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: 
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&lt;midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>From: rick baird 
&lt;rick.baird@xxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>Sent by: 
midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Date: 02/08/2005 02:23PM<BR>Subject: 
Re: code page/CCSID for CPY***IMPF and STMF<BR><BR>Rob,<BR><BR>On Tue, 8 
Feb 2005 14:51:00 -0500, rob@xxxxxxxxx &lt;rob@xxxxxxxxx&gt; 
wrote:<BR><BR>&gt; That ain't going to work.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; We did a 
CHGSYSVAL QCCSID to 37.<BR><BR>ooh.<BR> <BR>&gt; Try a CHGJOB CCSID(37) 
then your steps (including deleting the file and<BR>&gt; the CRTPF) again 
to test.  If successful, then figure out a time to do the<BR>&gt; 
CHGSYSVAL QCCSID and make the leap.  Really didn't cause any issues. 
He!!<BR><BR>You don't sound all that confident.  ;)<BR><BR>This is 
interesting:  I did a CRTPF CCSID(37) without changing my job,<BR>and it 
told me that "CCSID 37 not allowed with file type *DATA".   Why<BR>would 
it care?<BR><BR>I then changed my job to CCSID(37) and did the same thing, 
same<BR>message.  not specifying the CCSID let me create the file, but 
the<BR>resulting object had a CCSID of 65535.   Is this expected 
behaviour?<BR><BR>&gt; I think I did it midday.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; This is 
the long term solution.  You will hear of all sorts of workarounds<BR>&gt; 
and temporary fixes like the data area (which will be removed in a 
future<BR>&gt; release).  However IBM is giving a hard push to getting off 
of 65535 and<BR>&gt; picking a different CCSID.<BR><BR>I agree, but I hate 
flying blind here.<BR><BR>Where can I learn a little more about code pages 
and CCSID?  I didn't<BR>find infocenter very 
helpful.<BR><BR>thanks,<BR><BR>Rick<BR><BR>&gt; Rob Berendt<BR>&gt; 
--<BR>&gt; Group Dekko Services, LLC<BR>&gt; Dept 01.073<BR>&gt; PO Box 
2000<BR>&gt; Dock 108<BR>&gt; 6928N 400E<BR>&gt; Kendallville, IN 
46755<BR>&gt; <a href="http://www.dekko.com"; 
target=blank>http://www.dekko.com</a><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; rick baird 
&lt;rick.baird@xxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>&gt; Sent by: 
midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>&gt; 02/08/2005 02:09 PM<BR>&gt; Please 
respond to<BR>&gt; Midrange Systems Technical Discussion 
&lt;midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; To<BR>&gt; Midrange 
Systems Technical Discussion &lt;midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>&gt; 
cc<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Subject<BR>&gt; Re: code page/CCSID for CPY***IMPF and 
STMF<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Rob,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;When you try 
to copy the file back to the IFS, what are you copying<BR>&gt; 
from?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; flat physical file - CRTPF RCDLEN(80) 
CCSID(*JOB)<BR>&gt; user CCSID is *sysval<BR>&gt; sysval for CCSID is 
65535<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;What is the CCSID and/or code page of that 
file?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 65535<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; The original file received 
from the bank is a stream file - CCSID 37.<BR>&gt; I get the file via 
FTP.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Thanks,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Rick<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Rob Berendt<BR>&gt; &gt; --<BR>&gt; &gt; Group Dekko 
Services, LLC<BR>&gt; &gt; Dept 01.073<BR>&gt; &gt; PO Box 2000<BR>&gt; 
&gt; Dock 108<BR>&gt; &gt; 6928N 400E<BR>&gt; &gt; Kendallville, IN 
46755<BR>&gt; &gt; <a href="http://www.dekko.com"; 
target=blank>http://www.dekko.com</a><BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; rick baird 
&lt;rick.baird@xxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Sent by: 
midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>&gt; &gt; 02/08/2005 01:30 PM<BR>&gt; 
&gt; Please respond to<BR>&gt; &gt; Midrange Systems Technical Discussion 
&lt;midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; To<BR>&gt; &gt; 
Midrange Systems Technical Discussion 
&lt;midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; cc<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; 
Subject<BR>&gt; &gt; code page/CCSID for CPY***IMPF and STMF<BR>&gt; 
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Can someone point me to a clear and concise 
document that explains<BR>&gt; &gt; code page - CCSID topics and how to 
effectively use them when<BR>&gt; &gt; transfering files of various CCSIDs 
from physicals to stream files<BR>&gt; &gt; using the CPY***IMPF or STMF 
commands?<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Ever since upgrading to V5R3, a ton of 
my CPYFRMIMPF and CPYTOIMPF<BR>&gt; &gt; commands have broken.   I know 
about the PTFs, and the data area to go<BR>&gt; &gt; back to V5R2 versions 
of the commands, but some things are still are<BR>&gt; &gt; just not 
working right anymore, and I'm ticked off about.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; 
in one case, i have a flat file from the bank, and it has a 
leading<BR>&gt; blank.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; I do a cpyfrmimpf to a 
flat PF, using RMVBLANK(*NONE) but it still<BR>&gt; &gt; trims the first 
blank of the first record before stopping the trim.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; 
&gt; When I recieve the file from the bank, it's indeciferable when 
opened<BR>&gt; &gt; in notepad, but copies up to the iseries just fine 
(except for the<BR>&gt; &gt; blank described above).  But I can't copy the 
same file back to the<BR>&gt; &gt; IFS.   I used to be able to do a 
CPYTOIMPF STMFCODPAG(*PCASCII) and I<BR>&gt; &gt; could get an ascii 
readable stream file no matter the code page of the<BR>&gt; &gt; source 
file - not any more.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; I've done a work around for 
the trim, but if they fix it in a<BR>&gt; &gt; subsequent PTF, it'll break 
again.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Thanks in advance,<BR>&gt; &gt; 
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