RE: Setting up a Model 170 for developers

>Are the compilers part of base OS/400? 

Nope, you'll need WDS.

>If I had my way, I'd be dumping the Synon stuff real fast and avoid the
licence
>altogether, but that's the way it goes.

Why? I assume (perhaps a dumb thing to do) that the client's systems are
written in 2E, so why dump it? Now, if the client is moving away from 2E
that's a different story, but if not, it still works great for what it
does. 

If you have some good 2E people I'd have them write a code generator
over the model files so you have less code to write. I assume (again,
perhaps dumb <G>) that you'll be writing the "batch server programs" as
Execute External Functions and then "wrappering" them with a stored
procedure definition. It's a relatively simple thing to do to generate
the SQL necessary to define the excextfun program to SQL as a stored
proc, sure beats writing the SQL over and over and over and over and
ov... While you're writing code that writes code, be nice to the Java
folks and generate the code they need to call the stored procs, again
you have the ideal information necessary to generate this in the model.

>but the licences and extra software from IBM (WDS, SQL, etc) 
>will probably make the cost prohibative.

Especially since they (the client) is supposed to give you a VPN in
about a month. Tell them to get off their a**. I don't want to quote
prices for CA, but IIRC, 2E will cost you 10s of thousands alone. Now,
since it's only for a month, and the client presumably (there I go
again) has a 2E license already, maybe CA will let you pay a nominal fee
to use another copy for a short period of time. 

-Walden

PS. If you don't have good Synon people I might know a couple! <G>

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Subject: RE: Setting up a Model 170 for developers



> from: "Walden H. Leverich" <WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> subject: RE: Setting up a Model 170 for developers
> 
> Ed,
> 
> Where's the Java front end? On an iSeries, or on another box. And for
> development/testing purposes do you care? I don't even think you'll
need
> Java on the iSeries if you're not running WAS on the iSeries itself. 
> 
> Careful, the 2E (Synon, now CA's AllFusion 2E) license will be the
most
> expensive part of this setup, by far!
> 
> -Walden

Hi Walden

Thanks for the reply.  The guys will probably not be doing an Java
coding, but
I will need the RPG and COBOL compilers for the project.  Are the
compilers
part of base OS/400?

Also, will I need the Comms utilities?

I think this is going to be one of those things that looks good on the
surface
(the box itself is relatively inexpensive), but the licences and extra
software
from IBM (WDS, SQL, etc) will probably make the cost prohibative.

If I had my way, I'd be dumping the Synon stuff real fast and avoid the
licence
altogether, but that's the way it goes.

Thanks

-Ed
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